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By Kris Graft
October 16, 2008
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"What's going on is that Xbox 360 is sold out in Japan. It's unbelievable."
Microsoft continues to keep its eye on a prize that may have been unthinkable just a few years ago.
In a post-NPD interview, Aaron Greenberg, director of product management for Xbox 360 and Xbox Live, reiterated Microsoft's belief that Xbox 360 will outsell PS3 on a worldwide basis this generation. The following are the excerpts from the interview, covering everything from the risks of being a first-mover to maintaining profitability and recent Japanese success. And of course, in Greenberg's style, a few jabs against rival PS3.
Note to readers: We also extended an invitation to Sony and Nintendo for post-NPD interviews, with no response.
On sustaining the sales boost following the price cut:
Our belief is that it will be absolutely sustainable going into the holiday, because the price drop is just one part of our holiday campaign. We're completely reinventing the Xbox 360 on November 19 with the launch of the New Xbox Experience, which will make the Xbox even more accessible. We're going to have our biggest and broadest lineup of games that we've ever had.
On PS3 offering a better value than Xbox 360 with more built-in goodies and free online:
People first and foremost are buying consoles for the games, and when it comes to games Xbox 360 is the number one platform--most titles, most blockbusters, most exclusives. If you want to play Gears of War 2, Lips or Fable 2, you'll get an Xbox. Then you add the fact that every major third party title this holiday is also coming out on Xbox 360. We are the system with great games, not to mention Xbox Live, Netflix and being half the price of PS3.
We're slowly removing the reasons to buy a PS3. It feels like we're coming to the point where we're really seeing that.
On the sales split between the Xbox 360 Arcade, Premium and Elite:
We don't break out that information. But the Arcade has done extremely well. I think you're seeing as we move into our fourth holiday a much more price-conscious buyer. Historically, the best-selling SKU has been the Xbox 360 with the 60GB hard drive.
On maintaining a profitable Xbox business:
The nice thing about our business is that it's a profitable business. We've sustained profitability for the whole year, and we continue to maintain a profitable business. We're seeing our live business grow. We're selling more software than ever before--our attach rate was 8.1 in September, not including Xbox Live Arcade. Those are great health indicators.
On the first-mover advantage:
The payoff of being the first console to launch this generation has been the ability to cost reduce and pass those benefits off to consumers. The fact that we're now half the price of PS3 and less than Wii, our competitors are unable to make price drops [Not that Wii even would need to at this point - ed]. Those are all benefits from launching first this generation.
On the "Jasper":
We don't ever comment on codenames and internal components and those types of things. We have a great box and people should buy with confidence.
On recent Japan success:
What's going on is that Xbox 360 is sold out in Japan. It's unbelievable, the demand we've had as a result of delivering great games. The fact that we've delivered blockbuster RPGs back-to-back along with the price drop in Japan has helped us sustain momentum in the market. We have a fantastic team doing business over there, and we've got great results after years and years of determination.
We're also working with third party partners like Namco Bandai and Square-Enix and a lot of the other big name publishers. They're looking to our platform to deliver their great Japanese RPGs as well as their global franchises.
On Europe's battlefield:
We've dropped the price twice in one year in Europe. As we've said, Europe is the battleground territory for us that we're prioritizing. A lot of the titles like You're In the Movies and Lips--those titles go over really well in Europe. Those are types of games they're looking for.
We're continuing to outsell the PS3 across all of Europe [he says week-to-week, but not yet for a full month straight - ed] to extend our lead in Europe. The Chart-Track/GfK equivalent that we're getting shows that we're outselling PS3 not only in the top markets, but across all of Europe total.
We expect Xbox 360 on a global basis this holiday will sell more units than PS3, in Europe and North America specifically. And as Don Mattrick said at E3, over the entire generation we expect to outsell PlayStation 3's install base. A lot of that will be the result of maintaining our price leadership and our game catalog.
When the heck are they bringing LIVE to South Africa? wtf? We're here too man, i don't get it there was this whole petition thing and then nothing..
I particularly like his comment regarding "The fact that we're now half the price of PS3 and less than Wii". Sure, but once you add the virtually mandatory hard drive and wireless adapter, you've spent the same amount as a PS3 but you're now missing the Blu-Ray drive and user-upgradeable HDD.
With the upcoming NXE update, I'd love to replace my 360's 20GB HDD for the copy-to-disk feature (Fallout 3's filled mine to capacity), but I'm not paying Microsoft's over-inflated accessory tax to do so. I upgraded my PS3 from 60GB to 250GB for $90 a few weeks back; it was cheap and fairly straightforward to do. Microsoft's upgrades are significantly more expensive, less capacious, AND you have to call up India to request the transfer cable because they refuse to support the standard SATA/eSATA connectors.
I'll still play 360 games, but that doesn't mean I'm not still pissed at Microsoft's continued insistence on price-gouging for their "value added" accesories, gamerpics, themes and other DLC; inflated prices are *not* a value-add. Nor have I forgotten their RRoD & DRM debacles.
It's hard to be a 360 fanboy when Microsoft continues to go out of its way to piss off its own consumers. Just ask Sony & EA how that's working for them these days. Numerous factors can quickly turn the tides each gen. Witness Nintendo's dominance over hardware sales with the Wii & DS. The only thing that hasn't changed is that Microsoft is still in second place, and Sony's crawling its way up from third faster each day. It's almost a dead-heat between those two now.
Microsoft's recent price cuts were intended to fend off recent PS3 wins, not because they wanted to pass the savings off to their consumers. A pre-Christmas price-cut on the PS3, alongside the wave of great titles recently released & still to be released by years' end, would do wonders for PS3 sales.
The hard drive is not "virtually mandatory". Not even close. It really is only needed for marketplace stuff. For gaming there is zero need (other than DLC). You get little to no advantage from the HDD during gameplay other than a couple games will cache which'll improve your load times slightly (Oblivion any one?).
Wireless adapter isn't required either. I'd be willing to guess way more 360 owners are hardwired than not. And not because they don't want to pay, but because they either don't have a wireless router already, or because they don't want to go through the hassle of setting up their devices, putting their codes in (I personally don't like the idea of using my router wirelessly (is that a word?) since I either have to put in some cumbersome code every time to get access to my network, or leave it open for my neighbors to steal with their laptops or PSPs. Sorry, don't want to give my neighbors free internet. And I'm not an expert when it comes to wifi; I just know that it was a pain in the ass with losing connections and using passwords, or the devices not even finding the connection with my DS, Wii, and laptop.
And as far as BluRay; I don't think that matters either. As has been discussed on this site multiple times, it is debatable how soon digital distribution will take off (it is increasing rapidly in its popularity already). With the 360 already offering over 900 (SD with a large percentage offering HD as well) movies and the largest library of HD movies, BluRay may already be a thing of the past for 360 owners. Now with Netflix providing the 360 I don't know how many thousands of movies for streaming and Netflix HD streams debuting on the 360, BluRay is becoming more and more obsolete for 360 owners. And with streaming boxes like Vudu offering SD purchases and HD rentals straight to your TV with no monthly fee, BluRay could be obsolete to a lot of other consumers as well.
You are right about the price of the hard drives though, it's ridiculous.
As far as MS in second place, in installed base they are in second place, but they lead in total revenue worldwide and smash the Wii and PS3 in software revenue. Sony this year (at least in the US) has not GAINED on the 360 at all. And since we're talking about it, since the PS3 launched the 360 has more than doubled its lead over the PS3. Check here http://www.edge-online.com/news/sony-cuts-profit-outlook-57#comment-3367 for a post of mine with facts and links to support them in regards to Sony's US performance so far and its numbers compared to the 360 (US numbers only, not worldwide). This year the PS3 has sold only 160k systems more than the 360 (in the US) and with October, November, and December still left, most likely this will make the 2nd straight year that the 360 has beaten the PS3 in annual console sales, software sales, and overall revenue. You can argue that worldwide they probably will outsell the 360 this year, but the U.S. by far and wide is the most important and largest market.
I think you're right about the price cuts. Sony had a few months straight this year where they outsold MS and I think MS had to spark some sales to take away Sony's momentum. I do think PS3 sales will increase during the holidays, but that's just because it’s the holidays and those times are good for all consoles anyway. As far as a PS3 price drop this holiday, that's doubtful in my opinion (and Sony's, as they CLAIMED they will not drop the price this year). But that wouldn't be the first time they flat out lied about a price drop.
It wouldn't be the first time any of the vendors lied about a price drop, Microsoft included.
The HDD and wireless are mandatory for me, for reasons explained elsewhere. Microsoft's decision to disallow/make difficult caching on the HDD was a poor one, regardless. Slow load times, texture pop-in, and object pop-ups are the result. I'd be curious to see Microsoft's numbers of HDD-equipped vs Arcade sales, as well as know how many of those Arcade purchases are a secondary or replacement 360.
Digital distribution is still pie-in-the-sky for me, as I'm stuck with a 1.5Mbps connection. I can pay three times as much for a faster (when it's working) cable connection or wait for FiOS to maybe, eventually, be available. Streaming is spotty, although I've had good luck with the PlayOn Server (http://www.themediamall.com/playon), which recently added Netflix streaming to their existing YouTube, Hulu, CBS, Netflix, CNN, and ESPN streaming.
Why do you have to enter a code every time you want to use your wireless? Every OS and consumer device stores your SSID and security passphrase for retrieval. Most support multiple profiles and open access points as well, so that your device can roam on other networks.
As for the DS, Nintendo only supports 128-bit WEP encryption, which is like locking a screen door. Anybody can get in if they really want to. Common practice is to configure wireless routers with WPA/WPA2, which are far more secure than WEP. That dichotomy requires you to setup two routers; one for WEP and one for WPA/WPA2. My solution, DD-WRT configured for WPA2 with a virtual WEP lan all in one box. Two bridged routers are cheaper than the 360's overpriced wifi adapter.
DD-WRT (dd-wrt.com) is very versatile and works with quite a few off-the-shelf wireless routers, possibly one you already own.
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Someone needs to stop telling this lying ugly fat asshole to stop masturbating and going on and on about microsoft and coming up with more bullshit, spun, made up crap - please don't make me laugh and vomit at the same time.
Yep, the asexual emo PS3 fanboy CameronL99 is on his way out. Perhaps he is a little anxious about the GOW2 release this Friday. Given the choice between this next-generation-platform defining game and the LBP 2d platformer (with user mods) on PS3, he is right to feel a little whimsical and melancholy.
Am I the only one who thinks that the release date of NXE was pushed back to November 19th so that it falls right around the end of the 3-year warranties of those who purchased a 360 at launch (11/22/05)? Maybe this is part of Microsoft's ploy to increase holiday sales? :^)
FWIW, I had two 360s die within a week of a dashboard update (fall '06 & spring '07).
I don't have a hard time believing that at all.
I guess if our systems are bricked they'll happen as soon as the update hits, which means we'll have a few days to call em up (that's weird that you'rs took a week to get bricked). What you say is interesting though...
Part of the problem was that I was/am in the Microsoft "dead pool" of haphazardly-refurbished systems. This last 360 (my fifth) has been working for ~15 months now. None of my previous 360's lasted a year. The delayed bricking was pretty common for both of those dash updates, so it wasn't an isolated incident.
Yeah...some people had worse luck than others with RRoD. I managed to only have 1 die (unless you count the dead-on-arrival replacement unit they sent me that I promptly sent back). I've purchased a total of 4 360s and only one died (my launch 360 was on its last leg when I traded it in for my elite which was launch hardware and is still going strong). Not all were launch hardware, I bought the newest model for my wife, and bought an arcade one for my brother-in-law since his drive died and wasn't covered under the 3 year warranty since he didn't have the red lights and it had already been 1 year. But it seems as though all 360 owners have been touched by RRoD. It does seem like the problem has really decreased so I'm confident that those days are over (for the most part).
As far as the brick issue, it will only affect LAUNCH purchasers but the 3 years are from your purchase date, not the 360 launch date. So I'm sure most launch date 360 owners have had their's die (that's sad) and granted a new 3 year warranty from their 360 replacement's deliver date. I don't think there's any kind of hidden agenda or ulterior motive for launching the NXE in November.
Quote: "People first and foremost are buying consoles for the games and when it comes to games Xbox 360 is the number one platform--most titles, most blockbusters, most exclusives. If you want to play Gears of War 2, Lips or Fable 2, you'll get an Xbox."
Hum.. Little Big Planet, Resistance 2, Motostorm 2, Valkyrian Chronicles, Wipeout HD, PS Home ring any bells?
Little Big Planet alone is enough to wipe all XBox exclusives. Believe me, I' ve played the Beta.
Lips? Is this a joke?
"Hum.. Little Big Planet, Resistance 2, Motostorm 2, Valkyrian Chronicles, Wipeout HD, PS Home ring any bells"
Yes, they do ring bells, they're same games PS3 fans keep bringing up over and over and over again, when trying to list reasons to buy a PS3. They still don't appeal to my tastes in games, just like haven't the last 20 times people have posted them.
"Little Big Planet alone is enough to wipe all XBox exclusives. Believe me, I' ve played the Beta."
I don't believe you, in fact, because i played it at my buddy's place and didn't enjoy it at all. Personal opinion and tastes are not enough to "wipe all exclusives."
With the 360 currently having a very attractive price tag, I don't see any reason why people who like playing games and spending money on them can't enjoy both. I honestly hate the attempts of both Sony and Microsoft to constantly wipe each other off the table while in reality, they do need the competition. Fanboys are happy to completely buy into the marketing ploys and will defend their console of choice to the death - not realizing that they're mere puppets. Both consoles have good exclusives (because they are competing) - for instance, Fable 2 is a great game and so is Little Big Planet. Just enjoy them and stop being a tool.
I would enjoy them.....if I had either a 360 or PS3. Since I have neither, i won't be enjoying any of them......and am sleeping quite well at night despite this fact..
Last time I checked, people WERE allowed to have opinions about games they like and dislike.....or has that recently changed and I was informed?
If you don't own either of these machines, I imagine it's quite hard to actually form an opinion with regards to their games. Screenshots, reviews and interviews might give you an impression but actually playing them is what does the trick, I think.
Actually playing then DOES do the trick, I agree. Which is why, when I go to my friend's places, I play their Xbox or PS3 games and demos, so I can tell first hand what i think about a game. To talk about something without playing it, would just be ridiculous.
Of course it's your "tests and opinions" method, and as that I respect it. Just want to point out some minor flaws in it. Please keep in mind that by "demos" I mean actual demos AND full games played for a short amount of time.
First, there are games (many games) that don't shine through a demo or a quick session. They need hours and hours of investment (Fable 2 comes to mind which might be a good game but when I played it at my friend's place for an hour it just wasn't so cool -- it was the full game of course).
Then there are games that don't have (or don't need) demos: Halo 3, Gears of War, Half-Life 2, CoD 4 etc. Those are "good" games in general, but what if you just don't dig them? Halo 3 didn't impress me at all, but I really tried -- again, at my friend's place.
Finally, there are times when some demos are superb, while at some other point you just love them for some reason. At first I really hated the Motorstorm demo, later liked it more and more, then it was an inevitable buy; at first I couldn't stand BattleFantasia, a week later ordered it from YesAsia. And so on.
I don't call it BS, but I feel that you're trying to justify your system of choice (or lack of choice).
EDIT: after I read below your conversation with Nick I think I was a bit aggressive / enthusiastic above.
You say "I get to enjoy more of the game by NOT playing it. And i'm perfectly OK with that."
Me too ;)
I always thought demos were actual game levels, is that not the case?
No worries, you're just passionate about your product and want other people to enjoy it on the same level you do. Nothing wrong with that. You just have to remember not everything is made for everyone, different strokes for different folks.
I may be passionate about "my" product (I wish it was mine actually), and yes, demos are actual game levels most of the time. (Please keep in mind that I used the word "demo" in a broader sense.)
Let's see it this way: if I'm into games (as you are I presume) I don't skip entire generations and I won't argue about games I didn't play. (Oh wait, it's the Internet, I'm allowed to do anything.) I usually don't express an opinion on any movies or books if I didn't see / read them, because a scene or the first couple of pages simply won't work in those cases.
Then I guess i'm not into games at the same level of excitment as you are then.
Excitement and rhetoric aside, you know what I'm saying about the difference between experience and opinions.
I always did.
@Ozz
Agreed.
I do have to say though, I'm sure you sleep fine at night. But you are missing out on some amazing gameplay experiences not having a 360 (or PS3). I made sure I had a 360 and Wii since the Wii dose offer some unique gameplay experiences and when those come around I want to make sure I can check them out. The PS3 and 360 aren't different enough and don't offer unique enough (when compared to each other) experiences to warrant a purchase of both. But a Wii and one of those (ahem...360 ^^) is ideal in my opinion. I haven't had this much fun with gaming since the SNES days.
Well, Nick if I had the cash and the time, I probably would have one (most likely a 360) but the truth is, I barely get 20 hours a week of use out of my Wii (not much of a gamer, I guess) and getting a 360 or PS3 would just cut my already limited playtime into even less time per game, not to mention the extra $$$ of buying more systems/games/accessories/etc for something i won't be using much. Doesn't really fit my lifestyle currently. The occasional PC game covers the 360.PS3-like gameplay experiences on those rare occasions I feel like one. But if someone spends more time gaming then me, what you describe sounds ideal to get a well-rounded experience.
Yeah, cash and time are kinda important when considering getting a game console. 20 hours a week! That's a lot if you ask me. But I'm married with 3 kids and as you know one of which is brand new so for me to get an hour or two a day is a godsend. But if I could play as much as I wanted, I'd probably get in 4-5 hours a day easy. Damn family!!! Actually got about 1.5 hours of Dead Space in last night. I would have played longer but that game was scaring the crap out of me. Easily the scarriest game I've ever played, puts everyhing else to shame (even RE4) in my opinion. And the graphics are the best save maybe Gears or CoD4 I've seen on the 360. Some of the best lighting and shadows, too (rivals Chronicles of Riddick on the Xbox 1).
Being a single guy with a live-in girlfriend, I have a little more free time to spend on gaming then you do, it seems. Although, my band does eat into potential gaming time as well. My buddy rented Dead Space and was gonna go over to his place later this week and see it. If it's as scary as you say, i'll bring a few changes of underwear, just to be on the safe side.
Shoot man, girlfriends can have the same effect as family. Its probably my wife more than it is my kids that I don't play as much. My 9 year old just plays Halo on my wife's 360, my 3 year old can keep herself busy with her toys, and my 1 month old just lays there like a log (kidding).
You gotta play dead space though, not just watch it. When I play, I just throw on a pair of diapers. ^^
Luckily, I made sure I got the "Low Maintenance" model of girlfriend before we hooked up, so I still get plenty of time to do my band and gaming and such. She's even starting to get into playing some Wii stuff, so I can combine the 2 sometimes.
Problem is, i suck at "controller" games now. I played games hardcore up until the N64/PS1 era. After that point, i got tired of the "controller and button mashing" control scheme, because I had been doing it for like 10 years, so I abandonned gaming until the Wii came along with a different control scheme. As a result, I've lost all my "controller" skills over the years and now suck pretty bad at console games. I'm sure Dead Space would eat me alive. Geez, I can barely keyboard and mouse my way through Portal without reloading a half-dozen times. As a result, I'd prefer to WATCH my friends play these nice looking games, and see it all happening, without having to try and control the action myself and only seeing 0.04% of the total game. I get to enjoy more of the game by NOT playing it. And i'm perfectly OK with that.
You've got people by the back seat of their pants, and that's the only reason you'll prevail.
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Both microsoft and nintendo have both made off handed comments about bringing their next consoles out by 2010 at the very latest. With nintendo claiming they will be ready in spring and microsoft aiming for late 3rd quarter with an exclusive Gears 3 on launch day.
Sony is nowhere to be seen and I'm sure they will eclipse 360 in overall units sold, but it won't happen until their already 5 million units behind "720" sales in a console generation they are so not prepared for.
2-3 years left for the Wii and 360.. PS3?..nah
Note to readers: We also extended an invitation to Sony and Nintendo for post-NPD interviews, with no response.
GEE, I WONDER WHY. That's like Fox News extending an invitation to Obama and Biden for post-debate interviews.
Every month after the NPD comes out companies make statements so I find quite strange that they refuse to accept an interview.
Your comment seems out of context.
Actually its not that uncommon when a company has no real good way to put a positive spin on something negative they just don't say anything at all. And Sony did have an NPD response this month, EDGE didn't post it. What EDGE was saying is that they asked Sony and Nintendo for a direct response. They could have pulled Sony's spin from wherever these sites find them, but they didn't. The MS response was just an extra thing they did at request to EDGE, not their standard PR release. Check this site out for Sony and Nintendo's spin (and MS's). http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/NPD_September_2008 Toward the bottom of the page you'll find the spin links.
Edit: And for Nintendo, they're traditional interview shy (They are known for refusing them, or cancel at the last second, just ask Dan "Shoe" Hsu former Editorial Director of 1up and former editor-in-chief of EGM about Nintendo's shyness).
Actually, we did run the canned response from Sony and Nintendo in the NPD story. Game companies sometimes just simply don't have time to do NPD interviews, so I wouldn't look into it too much.
Whoops, my bad. DIdn't think any of Sony's or Nintendo's NPD responses were in there.
I'm not sure if Edge asks them EVERY month or not, but if they do, I can totally see why Nintendo and Sony would say no. How many times can you say the same thing, month after month, without sounding repetitious? If this was just a one time thing, then I don't see a good reason they couldn't spare a PR person for 5-10 minutes to answer a handful of questions directly.
True, but I think Sony had more of a reason IF there were a reason other than time to not respond. Since their Spin is how they want to put it, but an interview may contain direct questions they may not have a way to spin the answers to to make them sound good. Nintendo, I don't see any reason they'd fear an interview, since they're obviously doing just fine.
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MAYBE, the Wii will hit 100 million, but I would be shocked if the 360 and PS3 hit 100 million. With most exclusives going away, it'd be difficult for a system to hit 100 million again.
I do think MS will be the first out the gate again with their next system and the PS3 will probably continue to sell and perhaps pass the 360 up. But at that point that generation "war" will have already been over so it won't matter any how.
I'm not saying that any of the new consoles will match the success of the PS2, but they can all sell substantially less than the PS2 and still break 100 million. We're not talking about the 3-4 year time frame that dedicated gamers look at, we're talking about 7-10 years. As for exclusives, all sides are moving towards first-party development, so there's always going to be exclusives to push one console over another.
Long-term success does matter. It costs money for developers to learn how to program new consoles. The longer the console is sold, the more money the developers make from that initial investment. So if a console shows long legs, it is more attractive to developers. This is why we're still seeing games developed for the PS2. It also matters to shareholders. If the company can show a track record of long-running and profitable products, the company is more attractive to shareholders. In the long run that means more to companies like MS and Sony than being able to say "we're number 1" for a couple of years.
Interesting he didn't mention Blu-ray. Which, for me, is the only real reason I'd be interested in a PS3 this year. I know MS is banking on downloadable HD movies as an answer to BR, but owning a disk and NOT taking up valuable space on your hard drive is a hard obstacle to overcome. We'll see what happens with the Netflix deal and if it crashes their servers. -- I also worry about this NXE bricking systems in a record way. I've already had one system bricked in the last major update. Good luck to these guys...they have the hardware AND the games. I don't feel like I'm missing too much not having a PS3. MGS4 and Little Big Planet are attractors, but not something worth spending $500 for.
If Greenberg wants a reason for many gamers not to buy a PS3 then they better get the following below on 360:
Blu-ray drive
Afrika
Disgaea 3
Little Big Planet
Killzone 2
MGS 4
Metal Gear Online
Resistance 2
WipEout HD
Pixeljunk: Eden
Pixeljunk: Monsters
InFamous
White Knight Chronicles
Flower
Final Fantasy Vs XIII
Uncharted
Ratchet & Clank
Yakuza 3
Team Ico games
Motorstorm
SOCOM
Demon's Soul
Echochrome
Fat Princess
DC Universe Online
Valkyria Chronicles
GT 5
Everyday Shooter
Flow
The Last Guy
Siren: Blood Curse
Super Stardust HD
Warhawk
Everybody's Golf: World Tour
God of War III
Heavy Rain
Initial D Extreme Stage
Kurayami
MAG: Massive Action Game
Nobi Nobi Boy
Twisted Metal
All exclusive of course.
A long list of excllusives, full of games most of which i've never heard of, isn't an argument to use to buy a console. Every console has it's own list of exclusives, so what? What makes these exclusives any better then 360 or Wii exclusives?
Ozz, your Xbox fanboyism is showing again. I might start taking you seriously if you actually owned & played all three...
showing AGAIN? Wouldn't it have to have shown at least once to be showing again? And I don't actually own a 360, nor have I ever, nor will I ever, so how I can exhibit fanboyism is beyond me. What exactly are you basing your opinion on? I am a happy Nintendo supporter, thank you. I have played all 3 concoles, but only care for 1 of them.