Anyone here use Usenet?

 
Yossarian's picture

For those who don't know Usenet, it's a peer to peer network that involves news boards and binary boards. The binary boards allow you to download the same sort of things as you'd find on BitTorrent, but with proper servers so you aren't relying on peers being online when you want to download. It's a lot faster than BT (it will simply download files at the maximum speed available), and you can get encrypted connections so your ISP can't send you threatening letters. It costs around $10+ a month for an account.

Anyway, I've recently signed up for an account at Newshosting and am trying to work out how to get the best out of it. Any tips or tricks would be great.

Brooks's picture

Don't really know why I've put off getting down with the Usenet to date. Probably something to do with ease of other piratical methods even considering Megaupload etc. fuckdowns of late.

You'll need a search engine to track down those helpful .nzb files. Newzbin's the infamous one (hell, it's their file format) but there are others.

Yossarian's picture

Yeah, Newshosting offer a free browser, but t seems pretty clunky to me.

LawrenceHill's picture

I've been hounded my a couple of acquaintances to hop on to newsgroups for years, but my laziness and sub free Torrents have prevented me so far, that and the fact I only download a few TV shows most weeks and maybe a film once or twice a year.

"Hate Filled Poster"

Olimite's picture

Easynews is all you need to know.

Jimmy The Lips's picture

Olimite wrote:
Easynews is all you need to know.


+1 to this. Have used it for about 7 years now.

GT: Jimmy The Lips

PSN: Jimmy_The_Lips

Another "Hate filled poster"

Yossarian's picture

Easynet's pricey for unlimited downloads, three times what I'm paying with Newshosting. Is it really that much better?

Olimite's picture

I wouldn't consider anyone else. The HTTP search ability is phenomenal.

Dark Soldier's picture

Wait, people pay to use these things?

Christ.

XBL: Dark Junglist PSN: DarkJunglist

Playing: Trials Evolution, Peggle

Yossarian's picture

You pay for a much faster and more reliable connection which, with my shitty Egyptian internets, makes a real difference to how quickly I can get hold of stuff.

Dark Soldier's picture

Ah, cept all my usual places are incredibly reliable speed wise. Maxes out my connection constantly.

XBL: Dark Junglist PSN: DarkJunglist

Playing: Trials Evolution, Peggle

Olimite's picture

There's no requirement/pressure to seed though - most of those private tracker sites are full of it.

LawrenceHill's picture

I just nab whatever off IsoHunt and EZTV and it's done by the time I finish breakfast.

"Hate Filled Poster"

liveinadive1's picture

NZB files are also encrypted (is my understanding), so while your isp can tell you are downloading stuff they can't tell what.

NZBMatrix seems good for sourcing.

XBOX: Nohawk86
Dark Soldier's picture

Olimite wrote:
There's no requirement/pressure to seed though - most of those private tracker sites are full of it.


Not with Ratiomaster they ain't. I've rarely seeded in my life.

XBL: Dark Junglist PSN: DarkJunglist

Playing: Trials Evolution, Peggle

Olimite's picture

I assume it's a private tracker though?

Dark Soldier's picture

the main one, no, you just have a 24hr delay unless you achieve a 1:1 ratio, which with RM is piss easy.

PtP, yup, but then it has every film since the late 1800s pretty much so its worth it, and you don't need a 1:1 ratio.

XBL: Dark Junglist PSN: DarkJunglist

Playing: Trials Evolution, Peggle

Olimite's picture

Wow, that sounds decent.

Dark Soldier's picture

Best private tracker i've been on. I'm on a 0.72 ratio right now, never been warned.

XBL: Dark Junglist PSN: DarkJunglist

Playing: Trials Evolution, Peggle

Olimite's picture

I'd ask for details but there's no sodding PM system on here!

Dark Soldier's picture

PM me on the old place chap, i'll take some screenshots.

XBL: Dark Junglist PSN: DarkJunglist

Playing: Trials Evolution, Peggle

Elmlea's picture

How do things like this still exist? I mean, with Napster/Kazaa/Limewire etc getting the shaft as obvious piracy machines, and Megaupload and its ilk now getting it, how can anything that works around centralised servers be remotely legal?

I see how torrents can hang around because of the decentralised nature, but even the tracker sites seem to take a constant bit of legal abuse. How does Usenet sneak by?

Escape's picture

Well, it's a right jibbidy to learn, and low-traffic in piracy terms. IRC, too.

XBL | PSN: Futurespect
Yossarian's picture

Also, most Usenet providers offer encrypted connections so there's no way of your ISP knowing what you're downloading.

Brooks's picture

I love that Soulseek is still going, damn useful for the odd rarity that.

Elmlea's picture

Yossarian wrote:
Also, most Usenet providers offer encrypted connections so there's no way of your ISP knowing what you're downloading.


Fair enough, but it wouldn't be very challenging for (say) the anti-piracy police to sign up for an account with Newzbin or whoever then go "hey, look at all this!" before shutting them down?

liveinadive1's picture

I think they are just not as 'big' as Torrent sites, or at least not as high profile in the media.

With this kind of thing it tends to be the household names that get the old bill poking around. Napster, Kaza, limewire, Megaupload, PirateBay were all the leaders in their individual field and the greater piracy world.

Usenet groups on the other hand don't seem to have an out and out leading site and I get the impression the percentage of piracy down to news groups seems low. (purely guess work, I imagine stats would be very hard to piece together).

That and those profiteering don't buy Bentleys with "God" as the number plate and change their surname to Dotcom.

XBOX: Nohawk86
Kow's picture

After all the huffing and puffing about the Pirate Bay, it's still there, same as it ever was.

Live/PSN/Steam - Kowdown
Brooks's picture

And Bayfiles is their new swap-in for Megaupload lol

Yossarian's picture

Another question, anyone used sabnzbd and/or Sickbeard? I've heard good things about them both, but can't get them to run. They're both written in Python, so I've installed that, but now I can't get the actual apps running. How's this supposed to work? Any ideas?

liveinadive1's picture

I've got SABNZBD running fine. Just download it then run the dmg/exe depending on operating system.

Run the application/programme.

Go to "Config", small tab toward the top left with spanner image
On the left go to the "Servers" tab
Punch in your info provided by your host (in my case newsdemon.com)
Bingo.
Then back on the main page just hit "Add NZB"


As for Sickbeard, I have used it but my old housemate set it up. If you can get it working it is well worth the effort, that for TV and couch potato for movies and you are flying.

XBOX: Nohawk86