Are games art?

EvilRedEye's picture

YES, I'M GOING THERE.
So it's now mid-2011 and we have a shiny new forum. Do you think the perception of games as a serious art form has developed in any substancial way since the ancient times of 2005 when people communicated using hieroglyphics and cans connected with string? A few high-profile figures like Charlie Brooker are happy to heap praises on gaming but has it made any difference among the filthy plebs who infest our fair streets? Do you think the medium of gaming has more right to claim itself to be art than it did in 2005, or is that time still yet to come?
I NEED ANSWERS.

Kow's picture

GO AND FUCK YOURSELF.

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Raiziel's picture

Noooooo!!! (not to the question, to the thread)

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Roujin's picture

Is this forum art?

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Dark Soldier's picture

This forum is more a fart. The type of fart where you do it under the covers then pull them over your missus' head so she gets the full waft of beer + kebab from the night before. Hilarious to begin with, but you soon get bitchslapped.

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Dogfingers's picture

If games were art they'd be a cock scrawled in permy marker on a toilet wall.

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Dan Ey's picture

I think games probably have less claim to call themselves art nowadays than in perhaps the 90's or 80's. They are art in the same way a McDonalds billboard is art - it may have art in it but you wouldn't put it in a gallery.

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davyK's picture

If game creation was a solo effort and a medium through which the individual makes a statement about the world they perceive themselves to be in then maybe. However games are games.

Lazy Gunn's picture

How about SOME games are different to OTHER games and SOME can lay claim to being more of an artistic endeavour than OTHER games, all of it is art, a cock scrawled on a toilet is art, its just not very good art. Why do you lump every game together? Do you lump every film together?

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Plornt 2.0's picture

Yes, it is:

http://cdn.wolfire.com/blog/sotcart.png

Also, when people make it into a cake it is also Art:

http://walyou.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/angry-birds-game-collection-cake-design-1.jpg

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If you consider something to be art (in that say, you consume it as art) then yes it's art.

-sigge-'s picture

Is art art? Even if noone think it's art?

-sigge-'s picture

Is Garfunkel art?

B³ano's picture

If you can identify technique, emotion and originality then its art. (I'm been watching 'Show Me the Monet'.)

Gremill's picture

GET RIGHT TO FUCK

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Dark Soldier's picture

That is beautiful, Grem.

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Tempy's picture

Journey is pretty enough, but it's all down to execution in the end. I'm not a fan of a lot of Picasso but you've got to admire the man's talent.

As you were.

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dynamite-ready's picture

HALLO! :}

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hylian_elf's picture

Hello. This thread is art. I call it... THRART!

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Tempy's picture

I don't remember letting either of you in.

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Yossarian's picture

As soon as you can come up with a generally acceptable, non-controversial definition of art then I'm willing to have this discussion. And I'm sorry Beano, but your definition does not cut it, due to the fact that the words 'technique', 'emotion' and 'originality' are three terms which are about as vague and woolly as the word 'art' itself.


Until then, fuck this thread and all who sail in her.

Tempy's picture

But is art games?

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Dark Soldier's picture

Why is tempeh no ban yet.

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Tempy's picture

Why is Dork Siljah no bun yot

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Dogfingers's picture

"QUOTE LAZY GUNN a cock scrawled on a toilet is art, its just not very good art."



I've seen some very detailed drawings, rife with emotion and substanace.

You'd sting me with a wasp?
Dogfingers's picture

I fucking hate this forum. Paragraph fail.

You'd sting me with a wasp?
Dark Soldier's picture

i had a bun earlier, while sailing in this thread. It sunk and my bun got fucking soaked.

Fuck you EDGE.

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Dark Soldier's picture

FUCK YOU DOG.

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Tempy's picture

I've seen some studies of female genetalia in some toilets which make great use of non-euclidean geometry to echo the primal urges of mankind and transcend their crude nature to something terrifying, like witnessing the spirit of humanity bore on top of a silver alter before some naked god of corruption.

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regmcfly's picture

Is Art Playable?

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Dark Soldier's picture

Only if its a Picasso, and only if its a jigsaw.

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