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Fable II Takes October
The game consumer showed up in an October that was marked by some of the worst economic conditions of recent memory.
According to the NPD Group, overall industry game sales (hardware, software, accessories) during the month were up 18 percent year-on-year to $1.3 billion. NPD said the industry is still on track to hit $22 billion in the U.S. this year.
Software
October's figures were driven by a healthy 35 percent increase in software sales, which hit $696.8 million.
"Console software sales realized the greatest percentage gain year-over-year of any category," said NPD Group analyst Anita Frazier. "This month, Fable II captured the top spot selling 790K units across the standard and limited edition SKUs."
- 360 FABLE II MICROSOFT Oct-08: 790K
- WII FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD NINTENDO May-08: 487K
- 360 FALLOUT 3 BETHESDA Oct-08: 375K
- WII MARIO KART W/ WHEEL NINTENDO Apr-08: 290K
- WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO Feb-07: 282K
- 360 SAINTS ROW 2 THQ Oct-08: 270K
- PS3 SOCOM SONY Oct-08: 231K
- PS3 LITTLE BIG PLANET SONY Oct-08 215K
- 360 NBA 2K9 TAKE-TWO Oct-08: 202K
- 360 DEAD SPACE EA Oct-08: 193K
Hardware
Hardware revenues were up just 5 percent, partially due to recent price cuts, to $494.7 million.
The Nintendo Wii sold an astonishing 803,000 units, as supply continues to improve. The next best unit-seller for hardware was Nintendo's DS with 491,000 sold.
In October, Xbox 360 continued to benefit from its early September price cut, selling 371,000 units.
Frazier said, "The price reduction on the Xbox 360 is paying dividends at retail as the platform realized a 7 percent unit sales increase over September. Keeping in mind that September was a 5-week month while October had four, the sales pace increased 33 percent."
Commenting on Xbox 360's performance in the current economic environment, Microsoft's director of product management for Xbox 360 and Xbox Live Aaron Greenberg told Edge, "We didn't know [how we would do]. We were very cautiously optimistic heading into the first month of the official holiday data with October.
"It does show that when people are staying at home for entertainment and being more cost-conscious, this type of industry does really well."
The PSP outsold the PS3 and PS2 with 193,000 sold. PS3 was close behind with 190,000, down from September's 232,400 (again, September had an extra week). PS2 sold 136,000.
Despite PS3's relatively low sales, Frazier noted that the console "realized the greatest year-over-year monthly unit sales increase at 57 percent."
Greenberg managed to get a jab in against the rival PS3, pointing out how Saints Row 2 for Xbox 360 sold more units than the high-profile PS3 exclusive LittleBigPlanet. "I think what we're finding is that Sony's in a tough position. They've priced themselves as a premium relative to the competition, but not really delivering a premium experience. It's hard to sell the system at a high price when you don't have system sellers."
Regardless of Greenberg's opinion, Sony and its supporters would argue that PS3 exclusives such as the aforementioned LittleBigPlanet, SOCOM: Confrontation, Resistance 2 and MotorStorm: Pacific Rift, along with other first-party Sony franchises are plenty of reason to own a PS3.
Accessories
Accessory revenues declined 8 percent to $121 million, but Frazier said she expects sales "to pick up again with the anticipated increases in hardware sales for the holidays."
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I find people love to spell doom for the PS3, it's apparently become cool to do so.
One statistic that people don't know is that at the PS3 has sold over 3 million more consoles then the the 360 did in the same timeframe.
So if you account for that their 1 year lead it's all that's keeping the 360 them ahead of the PS3. Also considering is it more expensive says alot.
Also think LBP will see huge increase in Nov because many people did not have it in Oct.
You cannot compare sales based on "similar points in lifetime" in order to determine which system is best. There is no question that the Xbox 360 has been far superior to the Playstation 3 ever since the Playstation 3 launched.
It could be argued that the only time the PS3 was better than the Xbox 360 was in 2005 when the Xbox 360 was on the market, but the Playstation 3 was nothing but a BIG LIE that Sony was telling people about...After all, with great games like Tekken 6 and Final Fantasy 13, how could the Playstation 3 be stopped (Note: those games have now been announced for Xbox 360).
When 2006 arrived and the Playstation 3 was released, we clearly saw that all of Sony's statements about the PS3 were nothing more than lies and exaggerations.
Business industries are NEVER going to determine which system is the #1 platform based on "who was better at different points in time, when both systems were of similar age." ... That is not how it works...
That's like saying "Coach, he might be a senior who is better than I am now, but I am a junior who is better than he was as a junior, so I think I should be starting."...It doesn't matter...the only "starter" is the person who is best NOW...and the Xbox 360 has been best all along, and it will remain that way for this entire generation.
For crying out loud, the Playstation 3 has been available for THREE holiday shopping seasons, and it only now got its FIRST game in the Real-Time Strategy genre!...That is TERRIBLE!!!
Xbox 360 had great games in EVERY GENRE...all along!
It's also important to keep in mind that MANY of the people who bought the Playstation 3 bought it strictly because it was the least expensive Blu-ray player. This is proven by the fact that the Playstation 3 has BY FAR the worst software-attachment ratio.
But now that there are dedicated Blu-ray players far less expensive than the Playstation 3, which offer better performance than the Playstation 3, it means that the era of seeing improved sales as a result of being the lowest-priced Blu-ray player are over.
Bottom Line: Xbox 360 has the best software available in every genre. Xbox 360 has the best hardware. Xbox 360 has the lowest price. Xbox 360 has the best online service. Xbox 360 has the largest number of exclusive games. Multiplatform games virtually always end up either noticably or significantly better on the Xbox 360. There is absolutely no doubt which console is best this generation.
Teehee Kim, are you payed for THIS?
You're embarrassing on EVERY front, but I like the cynical tone (let's hope I'm not reading too much into your ramblings).
Please keep posting your HILARIOUS comments.
Wow, Kim you outdid yourself this time.
I miss Kims lists, and he really should get back to using MORE CAPITALS, his caps lock key must be feeling very unloved.
I especially like it when he so simply and confidently declares the 360 the best console this generation. He doesn't shy away from pure bias or fanboyism at all...he embraces it, and with honor, pride, and not a single sign of shame.
If you're talking US sales you couldn't be further from the truth. And solid World Wide numbers are relatively hard to come by. But the 360 is at about 25 million worldwide (according to MS) and the PS3 is at 16.8 million worldwide (according to Sony). That's an 8.2 million difference. And what "timeframe" are you talking about? "the PS3 has sold over 3 million more consoles then the the 360 did in the same timeframe."
You could argue that WORLDWIDE the PS3 could potentially be ahead of the 360 by now if the 360 didn't have a headstart. But from going to dominating your next rival by 110 million units to being a mere 1-2 million units ahead is still nothing close to brag about. It's still an embarrassing first 2 years for Sony, especially in the US where they're getting smashed by the 360 (and Wii). http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/NPD_Seventh_generation
For crying out loud... when will people stop buying wiis? Crazy.. people.. don't you realise you'll play it for about 2 months then you'll get bored.. take it from me.. just sold mine on ebay.. thank god its gone.. i started to hate that little white box.. my big black box is much happier now its gone.. Well done Team Molyneux though! Beating Wii fit is great. LBP.. must try harder..
Quick, everyone, stop buying a Wii because Dan_Chippendale doesn't like it. No, no, sorry, we're not interested in your gaming habits, or taste in titles, the Dan_Chippendale has spoken. All 800 000 of you will go return your Wiis immediately because Dan_Chippendale didn't like his.
Ozz, I think what he's getting at is there seems to be a trend and maybe a relative small percentage (or possibly higher) of people that buy Wiis, and then never play them. It could be just a fluke-y thing, but doing a quick Craig's list and EBay search, the Wii's are selling at a loss and there are a ton of em selling with most people stating that the Wii's they're selling are basically brand new and that they had only played it a few times and then it just sat there. That could be somewhat isolated and obviously people are buying the thing, but it does seem that there's enough people who buy it that don't like it. And selling for a loss is nothing new when it comes to used console sales, but the Wii was defing traditions by selling for a gain for a very long time after launch, and it seems, that is now over. I thought Wii October numbers were going to either be down or even, boy was I wrong. I think I'm going to stop predicting Wii sales declines...
I'd like to see empirical evidence of Wii being bought, collecting dust, and being sold off. Craigslist and eBay are purely anecdotal. Not only that, but if the second-hand Wii market is as boisterous as you all seem to think it is, why are Wii's selling ridiculous amounts each month, including 800k this month?
It doesn't make sense. The 'Wii Collecting Dust' theory has been disproven time and time again... most recently last week when NPD figures were released showing that the Wii had such a high attach rate (higher than PS3 at DOUBLE the installed base).
People... Just because YOUR Wii sits and collects dust doesn't mean EVERYONE'S Wii sits and collects dust. Everyone on here is rational, so we should be able have discussions without over-generalizations!
As I said before I think what's happened now is that people STOPPED buying their Wii's from Ebay or Craig'slist because the retail supply has finally increased enough to match demand. I think the second-hand Wii market is NOT boisterous (I said people are selling them for a loss) just that there are a lot of people selling (I should have said attempting to sell them as many of the ads were pretty old).
I was sort of having conflicting opinions with myself on this one. On one hand when I see Wii's are no longer selling for a profit on Ebay or Craig'slist it looks like demand is dropping for them (or else they'd still be selling for more) but on the other hand it might just be that people can now find them in stores and have no reason to go to craig's list any more to purchase them.
I did see a couple attach-rate articles that showed the Wii had healthy software sales so maybe people are buying games for it afterall. I just tend to HEAR and see a lot more people complaining about their Wii's than I do people complaining about their 360's (as far as how much they play them). Of course that is not scientifical at all and 800k units shows that a lot of people still want one. And I DID see those adds and many of the people selling them said they didn't play them after their first of second time playing them. I didn't say everyone who has a Wii thinks that way, just the people on Craig'slist and Ebay who said that think that. I think that is fair to say that many people said they don't play their's any more, when they actually said that. That's not over-generalizing, I was specifically referring to people who actually said that. It probably came out that way, but it does seem like I hear that complaint more with the Wii than any other system.
None of what I'm saying is scientifical obviously, just pointing out what I hear and read from actual Wii owners.
"but it does seem like I hear that complaint more with the Wii than any other system. "
Assuming, based on the amount of time and posts you put here on this site, and a somewhat safe supposition that you frequent other sites similar to this, probably means you read and hear from a lot of "core" gamers in a day then other gamers, most of whom hate the Wii. As a result, that's why you probably here more stories about Wiis "gathering dust and being sold," because you spend the bulk of your free tie around people who don't like it. Perhaps if you spent more time at www.soccorsmomsandgrandmas.com or www.videogamesforkiddies.com you'd hear fewer such stories, hmmmmm?
I couldn't help but get a chuckle out of the two links you posted. Soccersmomsandgrandmas.com??? And videogamesforkiddies.com??? Is that a joke? And please don't tell me you frequent those sites?
As far as what Dan_Chippendale said, I did not say I agreed with him, I just tried to rationalize his statements into less biased sounding arguments. Did he mean it the way I said it? Probably not, but I was just trying to help the guy out, since you kinda tore him up a bit with your response to his post.
Yeah, I don't find too many soccer moms on this site. And you're correct in your assumption that I don't visit those sites. It was my online auction site experiences I was more referring to when talking about the Wii. But to be fair, and I failed to mention this thus far, I did not check the 360 or PS3 auctions to see if people were saying the same thing. That'll be later today when I'm not at work. If 360 auctions say similar things as the Wii ones did, I'll make sure I'm whipped for my insolence. ^^
(edit: To be fair to me, 99% of the time I'm on this site I'm at work and this site is one of three videogame sites at my work that's not blocked and has the lowest total of idiots than the other 2 I frequent. After 4:30 Arizona time, you'll for the most part never see me posting. NPD days, or big news days maybe, but at home, I aint got time to be messing with you goofs! ^^)
What, and you DON'T frequent those sites? C'mon, man. It's where all the cool kids hang out whilst on the internets.
But the same thing can be said about online auction sites as core gaming sites. Do you really think Soccor moms, grandmas and kiddies sell their stuff on Craigslist? Again, when you read about core gamers complaining about their Wiis gathering dust and are going to sell them, where do you think they sell them? A garage sale? A rummage sale at their local church? You're probably seeing the same people (obviously not ALL) that posted the comments in forums, posting their same sentiment on auction sites as they sell said offending hardware.
Hmm...well, not only are you generalizing that soccer mom's don’t use craigslist to sell their stuff/game consoles (which, I respectively disagree) but you are also generalizing that there are more Wii owners that are of the causal/soccer mom/grandma demographic (of which I do agree to a degree). I don't believe that the only consumer disappointed with their Wii (or at least the larger portion) is hardcore. I actually believe quite the contrary. I think people jumped onto the Wii bandwagon only to find out it’s not what they expected. The core gamer who you're referring to are probably the ones who for the most part avoided purchasing a Wii since it wasn't their thing. Either way, it’s really pointless to argue about this anymore. I think we can go ahead and agree to disagree on this one Ozz?
I do see your point to a certain degree, and it does make some sense.
I also see your point, but remain in disagreement with it. We shall agree to disagree and leave it at that, for fear of being whipped for our insolence should we ever start again.
Not to start it up again, and I usually wouldn't post a link to another game related site, but here goes.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/153882/wii_ages_well_report_says.html
So maybe Wii's are being used more than I thought.
The Wii owners we see and hear pissing, moaning, groaning, and bitchin' on these here boards, over at Kotaku, Joystiq, etc. represent an extremely small minority of Wii owners - even so-called 'hardcore' Wii owners.
Fair enough. But that doesn't cover online auction sites though, and almost ALL of the sellers I checked on said the same thing, they just don't play it. And as I said in my initial post, that probably just covers a minority of Wii owners, but still intriguing nonetheless. Quotes from my initial post below.
"maybe a relative small percentage (or possibly higher) of people that buy Wiis, and then never play them."
"That could be somewhat isolated and obviously people are buying the thing, but it does seem that there's enough people who buy it that don't like it."
I tried to mention on multiple occasions that I really didn't think it was widespread, just a trend I hear more about with the Wii than I have with other systems.
Now that I think about it... the reason why it seems that the general consensus is disappointed with Wii is because that ascertion is sensationalized in the gaming media tenfold. There is no doubt in my mind that the media has it out for the Wii.
Now if only I could get paid to do a content analysis study on this very subject...
Speaking of the media kinda picking on the Wii, I was reading the most recent GameInformer and the editorial section the Editor in Chief had his top 10 list of things that will be neglected while he enjoys great gaming this holiday. Well, at number 1 it simply said "Wii". Ouch, talk about a dis on a very large scale. I was kinda surprised he'd say something like that so publicly. It mayb be true, the Wii may be lacking in great new games this holiday, but to say that in the way he did I'm sure didn't make Nintendo very happy or some of GameInformer's readers who are Nintendo fans. I just laughed, though.
Depends if he meant it, or if it was tongue-in-cheek. Of course, could juts be pander as well. A plethora of possibilities.
See, you'd think that....but the fact that a "kiddie console" is outselling their favorite console brings out the "best" in people.
People buying products, not liking them, and then selling them shortly thereafter, has been going on for decades, in a variety of consumers goods, like cars for example. Why is it such a big, news-worthy, comment-worthy deal when it's for a Wii? So, it re-sold for a profit, good for whoever was selling it. They should be happy. And now that's not, it's in line with normal re-sale practises, so what's the big deal?
Well, it's not a big deal, but what it shows is that there even with the Wii's giant demand, it is somewhat going down (or Nintendo has finally managed to supply enough Wii's that people don't HAVE to buy them on Ebay). So it may not be that the demand has dropped as much as it is the supply has matched the demand. And my point was also to show that people weren't selling them necessarily to make a profit, but that there are a large number of people selling them due to them not liking it. But I did say that obviously enough people still want one, according to sales. So, maybe not such a big deal after all.
What does the ratio of "sales:items for sale on ebay" work out at?
Holy hell... This is gonna be a BANNER year for the Wii and 360. PS3 sales are looking pretty lame in comparison...
- Holy shit @ Wii sales... 803k. That is insane.
- 3 days of LBP sales are pretty good, but far from the system seller PS3 fanboys were touting.
- LBP, Socom, and Motorstorm 2 did nothing for Sony... those three games, along with Resistance 2, were Sony's big guns for holiday season.
- Wii Music not living up to the Wii series games in terms of sales. I think it'll have legs, but won't reach half the altitude of Wii Play/Fit.
- Prediction: LPB won't be in the top 10 for November.
- Prediction 2: Call of Duty: World at War will outsell Resistance 2 in November.
- Gears already #1 in November easily. The hits just keep comin' for the 360!
- Wii will probably top a million consoles sold in the US alone in November.
3 days of LBP out of a fumbled launch... I say pretty damn good
numbers should look way better in Nov... but you are right not as good as us fanboys had hoped
Socom, Motorstorm arent a concern they were never valued like LBP and R2 (the sucess/failure of LBP and R2 is the sucess/failure of the PS3)
- LBP will make top 10 in Nov (you have 2 Wii mainstays,Gears at top slot as you pointed out, and CoD, Fallout, GH, R2, FarCry, Mirrors, that atleast puts it dead last but i think i'll be higher (7-8)
- CoD:WaW will outsell R2 (on 2 platforms) however the PS3 version only has no chance.
Don't forgot Left 4 Dead is coming out in November as well. As Edge wrote about a few weeks ago, they have a huge mainstream advertisement campaign behind it, plus a recent Demo was released (if I didn't have so many full games on my shelf competing for my attention right now I would've checked it out), and it's going to have the Valve label on it. It would be very surprising if the PC version didn't make it to the top ten, let alone the 360 version.
Also, Wraith of the Lich King will be in the top three.
It would not surprise me at all if both LBP and R2 are not in the November top 10, although the market for LBP could be potentially huge, the PS3 price point severely limits that. It's extremely stiff competition on both the 360 and PS3.
Just to clarify ken's and sham's LBP statements a bit. LBP had 5 days to chart, not 3 (Came out 27OCT, and November 1' sales were counted as well). I know, not a huge difference, but when considering LBP was supposed to be huge, and when Gears sold over 2 million in just 3 days and LBP could only muster an eighth of that and having an additional two days over Gear's 3 doesn't bode well for LBP. Its numbers were still solid, but not what it was anticipated to be. I do think LBP will hit in the top then in November though. I do agree that CoDWaW will outsell R2 easily (even when counting just the 360 version). And the PS3 version of CoDWaW may not chart.
I will humbly grant you all of that... it was supposed to do gazillions... i will qualify that statement with the fumbled launch though... there was a lot of confusion as to when the REAL date was. Would it have done 2 million in 3 days? now way , even a million would have been a bullish prediction, but the numbers would have been a heck of a lot better (this being pure conjecture on my part)
Lets remember that GoW2 is a perfectly good sequel of a perfectly good franchise thats aimed to the core Xbox user, while LBP is new off beat IP.
Now lets throw in the server issues and i can see a lot of used copies of LBP coming into the market cannabalizing sales figures... and still i think it cracks top 10
and despite disappointing numbers i think its also a favorite for GotY.
But i think im honest after all(And yes i may get my SONY fanboy membership revoked) it does not look good at all for PS3 and its fanbase... not good at all.
I will humbly grant you all of that... it was supposed to do gazillions... i will qualify that statement with the fumbled launch though... there was a lot of confusion as to when the REAL date was. Would it have done 2 million in 3 days? now way , even a million would have been a bullish prediction, but the numbers would have been a heck of a lot better (this being pure conjecture on my part)
Lets remember that GoW2 is a perfectly good sequel of a perfectly good franchise thats aimed to the core Xbox user, while LBP is new off beat IP.
Now lets throw in the server issues and i can see a lot of used copies of LBP coming into the market cannabalizing sales figures... and still i think it cracks top 10
and despite disappointing numbers i think its also a favorite for GotY.
Yeah, I agree with the fumbled launch. And I think the game was hard to market. Was it a platformer? Was it aimed at a younger audience? I do think the numbers may have been better if it wasn't for that.
And Gears 2 is somewhat of an unfair comparison when considering its a sequel to a proven IP. But on a scale of system importance they may have been relatively equal (but it is hard to compare anything to gears, its ALMOST as hard to compare a game to gears as it is to compare a game to Halo).
It's hard to guess if LBP will show up in the top ten next month. There's so many solid games coming out that some other high profile games may not make the top ten (even when selling relatively solid). I think if LBP doesn't make the top ten that that doesn't necessarily mean the sales were bad, but just that the competition was so tough.
Oh good. Nintendo are still on a quest to banish world-wide obesity. That's nice to see. Jamie Oliver should make a Wii cooking game! That would be so much fun.
I'm surprised by Fable 2 as well. It really didn't appeal compared to other titles released at the same time and didn't seem to have as large a marketing campaign.
Fable 2's sales performance did not surprise me at all, even though more than a few analysts/writers predicted it wouldn't sell all that well (most notably on the Holiday preview edition of Bonus Round). There's a lot of more casual game players that really loved Fable and were looking forward to the sequel.
My friends who are definitely more casual gamers were looking forward to Fable 2 the most out of all the games coming out these holidays. I think it'll have very good sales over its entire lifetime, there will be good word of mouth, and it is an extremely accessible RPG.
I believe the fat tongued one has a DS game coming.
Ouch indeed. However, those are US numbers for October. LBP came out on the 27th in the US, after a very clumsy start. A small victory for me on this front (pardon my anecdote): a friend of mine will trade his 360 just for LBP and a PS3. It convinced / converted him but I swear I didn't try THAT hard. ;)
Ouch...
I hate to say it since I don't want to be branded a 360 fanboy, but even Sony's heavy hitters could barely muster a top ten showing (or push systems). To be fair, LBP wasn't out for very long during this time period so maybe November's NPD numbers will be a bit easier on poor 'ol Sony. With very tough competition in November from CoDWaW, Gears 2, and some of this months top ten games, I wouldn't be shocked to see LBP and Socom not even in the top ten, or again, barely making it. Sony is running out of large so-called system-moving exclusives. Resistance didn't make a blip, but they do have Killzone early next year and God of War presumably by holiday 09 so things could eventually start looking up for them. If Sony continues to get smashed this holiday, a significant price drop may be they're best chance of saving face.
Also, Sony already lost it's 2008 lead of 160k over the Xbox 360 in just one month. 360's 370k units nearly doubled PS3's 190k units. Just when things looked up for Sony. And where's Fallout for the PS3?
edit: and where is GH:WT?
Fable 2 was only out in retail for 7 days longer than LBP, it sold nearly 4 times as well, and Fallout 3 came out the same day as LBP. November sales of LBP will probably be more of a barometer of how many people are buying it as gifts to give during the holidays. That will also be the month the game will drive system sales the most (if it does at all).
"I wouldn't be shocked to see LBP and Socom not even in the top ten, or again, barely making it."
After only 2 weeks, it's down to #10 in Japan already this week, after debuting at #4 last week:
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21082
And it debuted at #4 in the UK:
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=21038
Hardly the hit all the media hype and fanboy cheering said it would be. Maybe the delay and bad press by the soundtrack and level content moderating hampered sales? Hopefully, they moved a lot of copies as part of PS3 bundles instead, otherwise, a very lackluster perform indeed. Doesn't seem like too many people "ran out and picked it up on release day." Maybe word of mouth will spur sales?
"edit: and where is GH:WT?"
I did an informal survey last week. I know 14 people that bought GHIII over various platforms. As of Tuesday, only 1 of them had bought GH:On Tour, my brother. He finished it on 2 different difficulty levels in about 4 days, saying there wasn't much new or different about it. When it was first announced, most of my friends said the song list didn't warrent buying it. Seems, from the people I know at least, it's not a very "in demand" title.
My last post them I'm taking a break.
I bought GH:WT and as it seems there have been small improvements here and there, online co-op, a pretty cool create-a-song feature, but there's something about the game that just doesn't click with me (I purchased it, a huge GH fan). It was WAY too easy to beat, I never died once on expert (in comparison I probably died over 100 times in GH3). Rock Band 2 may turn out to sell more copies than GH:WT and I'm sure that will make Activision worry just a bit...
Actually, now that you bring it up, that was another point my bro mentionned. He said it was noticeably easier then III, even on the harder difficulties.
The PS3 outsold the 360 consistently this year according to NPD. But Sony lost all that ground in just the last couple of months! 360 YTD is about 20k more than PS3 YTD if I'm not mistaken...
Gonna be a rough Christmas for Sony because the 360 is gonna leave the PS3 in the dust this holiday season.
And this was supposed to be the 'Year of the PS3'... the irony slays me!
EDIT: I should've read your whole post before I responded! We said the same thing...
No problem, I'm sure we all noticed it Sony's console lead evaporate in just two months.
Holy crap. I was not expecting Fable II to do that well. That's a sound beating of Fable's sales numbers.
And Jeezy Creezy, is EVERYONE buying Wii's?