Nintendo president Satoru Iwata has said that a lack of strong software was behind stalling Wii sales in the first half of the company's business year, but that he sees the console’s “momentum returning” following September’s price cut.
The patform holder sold 5.75 million Wii units in the six months ended September 30, down from ten million during the same period last year.
"Wii has stalled. We were unable to continually release strong software and let the nice mood cool,” Iwata said, according to reports translated by Andriasang. "We were unable to show a new game to become the next thing. In the game market, once you've lost the momentum, it takes time to recover."
In yesterday’s financial report Nintendo said that it was reducing its annual Wii sales forecast from 26 million units to 20 million. "In order to reach it, we'll have to move quite a large quantity, but it's a figure we released after having felt the momentum returning [based on the price drop]," Iwata noted.
As well as reducing its Wii sales target, Nintendo also lowered its profit forecast for the business year ending in March 2010 from 300 billion yen to 230 billion yen ($2.54b/£1.54b). The annual drop in profit would mark the company’s first in six years, and the news saw Nintendo stock fall 4.5 per cent - the most in almost three months - in Osaka trading, reports Bloomberg.
Geez! Did I really write so much?? NEVER again, but I guess dillusional stupidty really gets to me. I may like to add that all of M$'s accessories are also cheap, overpriced peices of plastic that are well, rubbish let's be honest. But some people are just easily pleased with mediocrity.
Oh, and don't try and get a reaction out of me either. I won't post any responses. I think I've said what I have to say...
While I admit Nintendo do need to release more of their 'core' games rather than 'casual' games, I do think its the XBox fanboys who are the ones who feel the need to always defend their machine.
I've owned a 360 for a few years now and like the original machine, its been a complete waste of money. The games are all the same. They play the same, some look the same (Halo) and you get ones that don't seem finished (GTA, GoW games).
Someone said the Wii remote doesn't suit all game types. This is true and its same for the 360's so called 'great' pad. It doesn't suit fighting games or any game that needs the player to use the dpad to choose weapons etc.
If Nintendo are so wrong with what they've done, why are the others falling over themselves to recreate the same thing? Natal is going to be a joke because it won't live up to the hype. I mean, look at the man in charge of its gaming decisions: Peter Molyneux. A man who can never justify the hype in his games!
Having better graphics doesn't mean innovation. Its just an evolutionary phase and having most games use the Unreal Engine doesn't show me innovation. They all look the same.
The XBox is hype over substance. M$uck are a 'me too' company. They release unfinished product. They try and sell their machine as something its not. All the stuff it can do now is pointless anyway. Its even crap as a DVD player since it can't output DTS sound. The machine was rushed out and even now its a pathetic, cheap piece of plastic.
M$ fanboys love to bash the rivals, particularly the Wii. Its like they can't handle people liking other stuff or new stuff. Sure, you keep playing the same games year upon year and tell yourself you're playing something new.
Sooner or later, the 360's going to fall into last place now with Sony getting its act together. The Wii may be a system full of crap party games but the 360 is a system with crap, dull exclusives that have been done to death and don't dare try anything new. What joy it is to film yourself in Halo 3. Not a fun gimmick though, is it? "Call of Duty is the best!". God to see you people can broaden your horizons...
Which leads me to how the typical M$ fanboy thinks they have the best games. In terms of exclusives, you clearly don't. Halo is not groundbreaking anymore - never was but that's how I can say this when M$ fanboys say motion sensing was done before. Halo had been done before too just not on console. Gears of War is in no way an amazing game either. Its gimmick is - at first - good graphics. After that it transpires into the borken, shoddy, typical shooter it is. This is from a company called 'Epic' too.
Then all you people say Nintendo people only buy certain games and how Nintendo only release certain games like Mario. Go look at what the M$ owner buys the most: the top selling games are Halo, GoW games and GTA, then CoD games. Take out GTA and all the games are the same genre type. Heck, even GTA involves lots of shooting. You people go on about choice yet all you buy is the same stuff. And like M$ themselves, you love to gloat about it but there's not much to gloat about.
As for the game releases, well, look at what you get: the same games every year. It CoD again or its L4D again. Every two years its Halo or GoW, whereas as the last main Mario game before 'Galaxy' was in 2002. That's five years. The last (home console) Mario Kart before the Wii game was also five years. Blah blah blah...
I'll laugh if Live does go up in price. Fanboys love to go on about how good it is but why should I pay to meet a bunch of snotty pratts with no life who go on about how big their GS are yet this doesn't translate to being how good you are at a game (a fact that shows when you kick their arses).
I wouldn't normally post such a rant on here but morons who I talk about like that Storm guy really need to see past your own dillusional world, just like M$ have to as well. This isn't a company that's pushed gaming further in any way. They just look to others and then copy and paste. Its going to take more than just creating a centralised online system.
Nintendo do need to get their head out of their arse with their own games and so do third parties, though I can never see this happening with the latter. They only have themselves to blame with crap game sales, but at least Capcom are showing what can be done with some of the games they've released and there's some good stuff coming from other developers coming next year.
In the end its Nintendo and Sony who have the more exciting line ups forthcoming whereas as M$ are going to be relying on their biggest gimmick of all, I'll have traded my 360 in for a PS3 long before then...
I hate the Wii and everything it stands for i.e. shovelware, gimmicks, family gaming, low on quality games, etc.
what the heck! how can you hate family gaming...
Awww, does it hurt to think of people with real friends who are not off tha inrterwebz.....
Personally, i want epic experiences, cutting edge, experiences that push the boundaries of the medium in both graphics, sound, gameplay and narrative.
I'm not getting that from the Wii, no gamer is and until Nintendo sort it out, then the Wii will just be a puddle of mud in my books.
The motion controller pushed the boundaries of the medium. In fact it might well have revolutionised it. So did Wii Fit and the balance board. Many people don't like that revolution, but that is the truth of it. Those products are totally innovative compared to any triple-A title on the other consoles.
The reason I don't like your argument is that there are already two consoles doing exactly what I think you want - the PS3 and the 360. Do we really need another one doing the exact same thing? Arguably the market couldn't sustain a third console along those lines anyway. Asking for the Wii to do the same is just plain greedy.
Enjoy the variety that the Wii brings to the market. I do.
could not agree more, don't Nintendo follow the "Blue ocean strategy"....
Depends what you call innovation. Innovation in the controls, yes. Innovation in more powerful hardware, no. Innovation in making games more involving and immersive, debatable. I think not. Innovation in moving the medium forward, absolutely not.
As for Wii Fit, it's pretty irrelevant to me as a gamer, but my wife uses it to get some flab off her fat arse so it's no total loss.
Talking about peripherals, the vitality sensor once again is going to be pretty irrelevant to me as a gamer.
Good point if you have been able to afford another console other than a Wii.
The motion controller pushed the boundaries of the medium
No, i'm sorry but it doesn't. Motion control has been about way before the Wii. Nintendo just marketed it better. Also, such a control scheme DOES NOT work well for every genre.
In fact it might well have revolutionised it. So did Wii Fit and the balance board. Many people don't like that revolution, but that is the truth of it. Those products are totally innovative compared to any triple-A title on the other consoles.
So, AAA titles are dependent on peripherals as opposed to a combination of artistically combining graphics, sound, narrative and gameplay? I don't think so...
The reason I don't like your argument is that there are already two consoles doing exactly what I think you want - the PS3 and the 360. Do we really need another one doing the exact same thing?
Why not, the Wii isn't exactly great for the industry is it? All it's doing is sending out the signal to publishers that a combination tacky/gimmick peripherals and shovelware will make money. Sony and MS are already jumping on the bandwagon with such peripherals.
Enjoy the variety that the Wii brings to the market. I do.
Your argument above reeks of nothing but ignorance. Just because it's new doesn't mean it's a) great b) better or c) for everyone.
I stand by my comments made.
>>> No, i'm sorry but it doesn't. Motion control has been about way before the Wii. Nintendo just marketed it better. Also, such a control scheme DOES NOT work well for every genre.
A straw man argument - nobody claims that it works well for every genre. The Wii control scheme was totally and startingly original, like it or not. It's not just the motion control, but the nunchuck and the way that you hold it is totally new to mainstream gaming. Nintendo took a huge risk with something new and it has been a triumph in the market.
>>> So, AAA titles are dependent on peripherals as opposed to a combination of artistically combining graphics, sound, narrative and gameplay? I don't think so...
A straw man argument again, as nobody claims that AAA titles are necessarily dependent on peripherals. The Wiimote is not a peripheral - it's the core Wii controller. I'm not arguing against graphics, sound, narrative and gameplay - in fact I think the Wiimote and the Wii definitely contributes in the last three of those categories. Some of the graphics are not as high-def as the ps3 - if you want really detailed graphics then go for the PS3, if you want surreal but less technically expressive graphics then the Wii is fine.
>>> Your argument above reeks of nothing but ignorance. Just because it's new doesn't mean it's a) great b) better or c) for everyone.
Another straw man - nobody would claim that the wiimote is for everyone - quite clearly a number of gamers don't like it, and that's fine. I don't think it's better than normal controllers either, only different. But you are conceding now that it is a new thing, where earlier you were saying it was an old idea.
Any of you are welcome to actually address my points rather than just resorting to insults.
Well, you've had it coming mate judging by your bizarre comments above. You've only got yourself to blame!
Which bits were bizarre?
All of it, it was nothing more than something from the NDF (Nintendo Defence Force)!
I like Dogs instead of Cats...
You do understand that the world is a subjective environment...nah didn't think you did, judging by your lunacy comments above.
Oh shit, the NDF (Nintendo Defence Force) is out.
this is the reason i dont like the wii.I prefer the old nintendo who used to push graphic technology (snes,N64).wii seems to me more like a marketing trick.i hope now they are in strong position their next console is going to be a beast of processing power
As I remember the N64 was criticised along exactly the same lines as the Wii. Critics didn't like the weird new controller with the analogue stick, and criticised the capabilities of the machine, which were said to be weak in comparison with the competitors.
actually the only competitor was the playstation (saturn was already dead) and the main reason N64 was crtisized was the use of catridge and lack of third party support.technically it was the best hardware and with the analogue controller introduced 3D gaming/mario64.now while the wii offers something different it's games looks pathetic cause of the weak outdated hardware,something that turns off hardcore gamers like me.
I think there are definite comparisons though. The Nintendo 64's graphical style of 3D was big solid shapes, which put off the gamers wowed by the more detailed textures on the PC and Playstation. The Playstation was perceived (and marketed brilliantly) as the cool machine for the older consumer. The N64 was openly marketed at children. I think it had exactly the same image problem that the Wii has today.
As it happens many N64 games still hold up today graphically, whereas Playstation One games have aged dreadfully. It will be interesting to see whether the same thing happens after this gen - will uncharted 2 and gears 2 look dated as graphics push even closer to photo-realism? Mario's graphics never age, because they have clean lines and a surreal look - I think that's where the Wii overcomes its obvious technical deficiencies best.
As it happens many N64 games still hold up today graphically
So, can you name these "many" games. You know that game Perfect Dark, there's are reason it's getting a graphical upgrade...
The ones with clean surreal graphics still look fine IMO. Mario 64 and the other platformers. Diddy Kong. The cartoony side of the N64 catalogue. Zelda to some extent. Perfect Dark and Goldeneye are almost unplayable today.
Mario 64, Diddy Kong, sigh...
Yeah, that's many games.
Come on, that's totally unfair. You know the sort of games I was talking about. Donkey Kong 64, Banjo Kazooie. Mario Party.
It's also true of Parappa or Rayman on the Playstation. I think games with surreal, clear shapes hold up much better to a modern eye than the attempts at photo-realism at the time. That's all I was saying.
Nintendo not dominating no more are you sure?. were they not just voted company of the 2009 by business week, beating google, apple, sony etc...
Just was looking at the stats on wiki
Wii Worldwide: 56.14 million as of September 30, 2009.
Xbox 360 Worldwide: 34 million as of October, 2009.
Playstation 3 Worldwide: 27 million as of September 30, 2009
Nintendo DS Worldwide: 113.48 million, including DS Lite and DSi units as of September 30, 2009.
Sony psp Worldwide: 51.99 million as of September 2009.
as much i love most quality third party games, my fondest memories were playing Nintendo games i.e. super mario world, super metroid, zelda link to the past and bizllion rounds of mario kart battle mode...those were the days
This is why Nintendo is in first place both with handhelds and home consoles. Even when they're still blowing away the competition, Nintendo is refreshingly candid about their mistakes and unwilling to tolerate complacency.
While I'm not a fan of the system or the direction Nintendo has taken as a gamer (I only find 2-3 games I enjoy each year on the Wii), there is no arguing that it was a well implemented business strategy.
Maybe if Nintendo started to put out decent games this gen (and new IP) then maybe, just maybe, i'd buy a Wii.
Until then, there is nothing but mostly shovelware on that system.
I agree. I like that Iwata is so humble and willing to admit that mistakes have been made.
Nintendo is refreshingly candid about their mistakes
Spot on. Can you imagine the Microsoft version of these remarks?
Why just MS? Sony actually takes the cake this generation. Boasting about your performance when you fell from a dominating first place position to distant third in the space of one product release requires an exceptional level of delusion or deception.
Why bring Sony into it? I was waiting until someone started to shit talk Sony on this website again and oh look who it is, same old same old grognard66. You really are an annoying rat.
As does boasting about your performance when you're $10 billion in the red! Personally I'd have to give the edge to Microsoft both for the extent of the disconnect between reality and their PR fiction and for the awful douchebag personalities of mouthy execs like Greenberg, Tsunoda, Mattrick, Kim, Hyrb, et. al.
I'm not saying Sony are a whole lot better, believe me.
The Wii is the only system this gen i haven't bought. Too many PS2 ports, family games, party games and general shovelware on the system for me to even care anymore.
For Nintendo this was a once in a lifetime run for them and it's ending.
You and people who believe that are going to be so disappointed - because that's so far from reality.
Once in a lifetime? The NES dominated and got them accused of being a monopoly and they've dominated portable gaming for over a decade.
If you read my comment properly you'd notice i was talking about the Wii in general...
And if you talk about only the PS3 then that's a once in a lifetime event for Sony. What's the point?
If you only talk about the Wii then no matter how it turned out it's a once in a lifetime event.
However success at gaming is in no way a once in a lifetime event for Nintendo.
^^Oh shit, Nintendo fanboy alert.
And if you talk about only the PS3 then that's a once in a lifetime event for Sony. What's the point?
If you only talk about the Wii then no matter how it turned out it's a once in a lifetime event.
However success at gaming is in no way a once in a lifetime event for Nintendo.
Sigh, you just don't understand where i'm coming from do you? Anyway, nevermind...
Yeah, that was 6 generations ago! Plus on the handheld aspect Nintendo have now got competition from Apple and Sony....so i'd hardly call that dominating.
I think you have a different definition for the word dominating than me, lol
Microsoft has competition in the operating system market but to deny their huge lead would be dumb.
Sony's PSP is a non-event. Stores don't even want to sell the latest version. Apple's phone is not a good gaming system no matter how you want to spin it.
A touch screen is limiting, the system has rampant piracy and the market is flooded with cheap games in which most companies struggle to make any money from it.
This compared to a DS which has more AAA games than the iPhone could dream of having, does no require being tied into an expensive phone contract or paying an extortionate amount to have it on PaYG.
It also has touchscreen and the internet but it also has an excellent traditional control system allowing far more variety in gaming without compromising controls.
Ironically, I was just listening to a Podcast on iTunes from some Sun Java developers about how desktop systems are a bit of a failure because they're trying to do too many things but don't excel at any of them and how mobile phones are in that same area.
There is so much competition in mobile phones and companies are trying to pack in so many features. They're turning out to be like Swiss Army knives. They are nice convenient cameras and game systems but they're not good cameras or game systems and that's why no one wants to pay any sort of real fee for a mobile game.
That certainly isn't scaring Nintendo. If they were scared they could strike a deal with a company to do a phone that was effectively a cross between a GB Micro and a phone. They'd instantly have a library of games that tops the iPhone and providing the other phone functions were decent, probably eat away a good chunk of the iPhone's market. Especially now that their brand is hot shit at the moment.
They don't do that because mobile gaming sucks. It will probably never take off big time and will just be something people sort of participate in to justify their expensive phone.
Toad go away with your silly nintendo fanboy rants! Nobody wants to read it.
Then don't even reply, numbnuts.