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Sony Touts PS3 Value
The standard 80GB PlayStation 3 retails for $399, considerably far away from the mass market "sweet spot" of $199.
But Sony Computer Entertainment America VP of sales Ian Jackson said on Thursday it's the value that counts.
At the BMO Capital Markets Interactive Entertainment Conference on Thursday, he said, "Now, I've heard it said a number of times from a lot of different folks: 'Well, you know, It's all about price and it's all about what you can provide, and everybody's price conscious.'"
He described the PS3 as a device with entertainment versatility, strong game support and Blu-ray compatibility. "There is no product in the industry today on the videogame console market that delivers what a PlayStation 3 delivers for under $400, in the case of the 80GB."
From the beginning, Sony has taken flack for the price of the console, as the 60GB originally launched for $599, due in part to an expensive Blu-ray drive.
Today, the top-selling mass market-focused Wii sells for $249, while after a recent price cut, three models in the Xbox 360 line sell for $199 to $399.
Nevertheless, Jackson said Sony's fiscal year 2009 PS3 unit sales target of 10 million units worldwide stands. "We're on track to hit those numbers, and we will hit those numbers," he said.
He noted that to date, total worldwide PS3 hardware sales are 16.8 million.
Jackson also stated that worldwide PS3 software sales stand at 115 million units.
"Hands down, it would be tough to argue that we don't have the support of the publishing community more so than we ever had in the past," he stated. "There's a lot of history, there's a lot of following, there's a lot of brand recognition."
He claimed publishers on PS3 enjoy a return on investment, adding "we're getting the cost of our development tools ... down, and we're seeing more and more publishers getting on board not only for the first and second time, but coming back and writing an extensive library of titles for our platform."
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honestly i enjoy these fanboy rants we ALL do from time to time Im sure our respective companys do also without us this wouldnt be a "next gen war" I beleive our loyalty to our different systems is wut pushes the makers to one up the other w better software hardware and everything, I mean how boring would it be wo blatent fanboyism from both sides well thats all ive got now for some Resistance 2 60 player online lag free bitches lol
And the wonderful dick-size comparison discussion continues. I'd use my time to play all these games on all these consoles instead of all this virtual bickering. Both consoles have good software line ups at the moment - both consoles are fun to play with. Live costs money but is better, Blu Ray costs money but it's better... Sony is arrogant, so is Microsoft. Microsoft steals ideas, Sony isn't all original all the time either. Nintendo is no saint either, they just package their ways of doing business cuter. Blahblah... blah.
Bleak,
Shouldn't you have been playing "all these games on all these consoles" instead of posting in this forum?
Oh, you're here posting (and obviously reading) too just like the rest of us.
I do like your points when it comes to the systems as your comments are pretty simple and spot on, but for you to be saying you'd use your time to play games instead of posting in these forums doesn't make sense considering you're here posting, too.
Argh - it's a paradox! ;)
It was sarcasm meant to just emphasize on the fact that some people take such a considerable amount of time posting up comments on why the "other system" sucks, you wonder whether they have time to still focus on their "own system". Although I didn't read every single comment and just skimmed the topic, you're still absolutely right... I think I'm going to shoot some Raiders now... ;)
Haha, it is a paradox!
Yeah I hear ya. I'm guilty of defending my system on here just as much as the next guy (I do try to stay as objective as possible unlike some people...Kim). The benefit I have is that I'm on here at work when I'm not able to play games, so it works out. When I'm at home, you'll almost never see me on this beast.
Shoot raiders?
The ones in Fallout 3. :)
Yeah, I realize that...only 1 month late!
The simple fact is that the ps3 is far too expensive and has an inferior games library compared to the 360.
Sony's lies and arrogance have finally come back to bite them and deservedly so.
The simple fact is that (when all said and done) the 360 is far too expensive and has an inferior games library compared to the ps3.
MS's lies and arrogance have finally come back to bite them and deservedly so.
Look what I did there. Won't argue, won't explain. Just said a dumb subjective nonsense.
Which is preferable to petulant bitching any day.
lets face it the matter of the fact is the xbox 360 is blattantly crap i bought my ps3 in Kuwait when it 1st came out for £350, and have never looked back, before i had and xbox ,for Halo which was a good game i'll admit but i had to take my xbox to a vendor and get it picked up by a courier TWICE for the crappy red ring of death, to show how crap the xbox is microsoft had one for a game compo as soon as they plugged it in and started it they got the ring of death and that was a brand new console direct from the manufacturer!!! at least sony a making a decent console which has blu-ray not a £70 extra, free acess to the PSN rather than a subscription fee, a decent games player, bluetooth, cardreaders and wireless and as stated before internet browser, and ability to plug in a external hardrive or swop the internal one with a 2.5" laptop hardrive, unlike the stupidly designed xbox hardrive, so if all u can complain about is the price stop being a sponge and get a job, Sony already admit they are losing about £125-£250 every console they sell so im happy the price is as low as it is
Exactly none of those games are even close to blockbusters and by the way kinda milkin halo arent they?
"Kinda milkin Halo"???? So if you have one of the most successful games in the world, a huge hit with the fans, a system seller and a brand as synonymous with Xbox as Mario is with Nintendo then you should stop making it? Now you're just coming across as bitter. Lets face it, Halo 3 Recon is going to be huge!
I wouldn't say that master chief is as synonymous with M$ as Mario is with Nintendo. Halo is still a game, not a brand yet. Halo golf would be great though.
They may not all be blockbusters, but I'd say at least half of those games will be toward the top ten, ahead of nearly any game save God of War and Killzone 2 the PS3 has to offer in the month those games are released. Some of Sony's "blockbusters" don't even hit near the top ten at all. So, right now probably isn't the best time to try to bash 360 games when they're actually selling far better than PS3 games.
This really is another factor in the PS3s comparative lack of success with this generation, the next big thing is always 'coming soon' and almost always disappoints on the rare occasions when it arrives. I'm happy that LBP and Resistance 2 have been well reviewed but the PS3 fanboy obsession with saying 'we'll have better games in the future' and 'next year will see the PS3 rule the world' is starting to sound more and more like self delusion.
2009 is scheduled to be BY FAR the BEST YEAR yet for the Xbox 360!
Just some of the games I can think of off the top of my head are:
* Alan Wake
* Forza Motorsport 3
* Halo 3: Recon
* Halo Wars
* Peter Jackson's Halo
* Mass Effect 2
* Star Ocean 4: The Last Hope
* Bioshock 2
* Grand Theft Auto 4 downloadable content
* Dead or Alive 5
* F.E.A.R. 2
* Prey 2
...Xbox 360 has the biggest and best lineup of games in every genre for 2009!
Don't want to spoil the fun (and I know you won't answer to this because you never answer) but the rude facts are:
- H3 Recon is an expansion, not a "full" game (google the recent interviews with the developers)
- Peter Jackson's Halo is not a game, at this point it could be anything
- Mass Effect 2 will be multiplat (with an inevitable port of the first episode on the ps3)
- Grand Theft Auto 4 downloadable content is not a game
- F.E.A.R. 2 will be multiplat (not sure but very probable)
- Prey 2 is anything.. we don't know about that at this point, maybe multiplatform
To sum up your list: half of it is fictitious / meaningless. Fanboyism at its best, again.
Oh and when we're at it. Wanna talk about Uncharted 2, Metal Gear Solid 5, or the next Team Ico game? ;)
Mass Effect 2 is a X360 exclusive, and there are no plans for Mass Effect on the Ps3. Who says so ??? Well,... Bioware - they should know!!!
MGS5??? Hasn't even entered development yet.................. and given that Konami are looking into porting MGS4 , this seems far more likely a multi-plat title.
What I wanna know what Bungie's secret FPS project is.... they'll probably unveil it when Killzone 2 is about to be released......
I'm glad you jumped the gun, seriously.
The MGS5 thing was a parody of Kim (you know we have a history here), no need to be jumpy on that. About Mass Effect 2 -- just mark my word, it will be on the PS3 (the third one might be a PS3 exclusive, woo). And well, Bungie's secret FPS project is Bungie's secret FPS project. Anything else?
I know it's easy to get protective of your console, especially when someone bashes it, everyone feels like that, so I'm not gonna get dragged into a pointless argument.
I like the PS3, and I do think it's good value for money, but personally I like my X360, it suits my needs - if you like your PS3 then good for you!
About Mass Effect 2, I'm far more likely to believe Bioware then your opinion, esp when it comes to the games 'they' make,
If you've played Mass Effect - you'd realise missing out any of the story wouldn't make sense + making part 3 a PS3 exclusive would be pointless, it was designed as a three part story - If it does come to PS3 then part one would be first.
In terms of you thinking the X360 has no exclusives here's a short list of actual games that should be released in 2009, IGN has a big list of games being worked on by studios - but there are no details about them so I can't comment (wait till after the New Year). But I willing to bet both MS + Sony have a few 'aces' up their sleeve........
*Alan Wake ( apparently the first game to use five of the 360's six cores - which goes to show there isn't a game out yet that uses the consoles full power)
* Mass Effect 2 - you know about this already.
* Huxley - Resistance 2's 60 player online mode was good, Huxley can have 100 vs 100 ( 200 players) on one map -, and up to 5000 in a game enviroment. (check the ign previews)
*Cry On- the third original IP Mistwalker , (Blue Dragon / Lost Odyssey)
*Ninty Nine Nights 2 - this time made by Feelplus the (developers of Lost Odyssey) - which'll hopefully mean more depth!
* Ninja Blade - from the people behind the original Tenchu game.
*Star ocean 4 - major JRPG, by Square-Enix/ Tri-Ace
* Bungies 'secret project' has almost been unveiled twice now, from what I gather it's a futuristic FPS + involves use of robots - mecha perhaps???
You might flame me for mentioning a secret project - but you did mention Team Ico's .....
Not including Recon, there are three more Halo projects in the works (Wars/ Peter Jackson's/ MMO) regardless of what you think, these are all likely to be big sellers.
*Current exclusives like GOW2 and Left 4 Dead are likely to still be major sellers well into the next year.
No offence but , what's so special about 2009 for PS3 compared to previous years, in terms of exclusives???
I'm not bashing the PS3, I'm just standing up for the 360, it's a great console.
To be honest I think the majority of the best games of the year will be multi-platform - like Res5, SF4 etc..
Ha, you're right , Kim does go a bit OTT, but his posts do have a certain comedic value!!!
Right , I can't believe I've typed so much........... I'm going back to playing on my console!
I don't know why you think it's ridiculous for ME to go on PS3 by stating how it'd make no sense if the first game wasn't on the PS3 when in the very post you mentioned, he said that the first one would likely be ported. It's like you're asking a question that was already addressed.
Also, Shenmue 2 came out on Xbox without the first one being on the console. It's not unlikely that Bioware would start making multiplatform releases.
Also if you're excited for Huxley, you're likely to be very disappointed.
Wow, what an answer. Two quick remarks.
"of your console"
It's not mine.
"what's so special about 2009 for PS3 compared to previous years, in terms of exclusives?"
I'm not sure about you but I'm pretty excited about BlazBlue, Fat Princess, Final Fantasy XIII Versus, fl0wer, God of War III, Heavy Rain, the upcoming ICO team game, and Killzone 2. Just off the top of my head.
Bottom line: both of us are satisfied with their system(s) of choice.
Ummmmm.....
Is that it????
Well if that lot makes you happy..... (O_O)
You seem to be a bit confused / stunned on this. Nobody's flaming no one, and you still misunderstood the Team Ico reference, which is weird. (Hint: it was an answer for Kim's stupid list, no biggie.)
Unless you're joking / trolling which is fine by me.
Unless you're Kim's alt.
Hardly , it seems a little odd for you to justify saying stuff like Mass effect 3 PS3 exclusive - which was a direct reply to my post, and then say it's all because of Kim's list.
That only makes you come across the same as Kim , except your not funny , and I was just standing up for my console because you gave me the impression you were flaming it.
You say Team ico was a reference to Kim's list, but then you mention it again in your PS3's best of 2009 - (a reply to my post,) and then you say that I'm confused????. I'm perfectly sure you know what you're typing, feigning ignorance and slipping in a few baiting remarks won't impress anyone.
I get the impression you're only here to troll/complain , either way I feel like you've just wasted my time + have no real point to make , so I'd rather not continue this conversation thanks.
Confirmed: LittleHell786 has no sense of humour.
Either that or he's really Kim.
Seriously: chill out mate.
This discussion is ridiculous im writing this w my ps3 right now can any1 w an xbox do that ? The point is the ps3 is a much better value hands down were not talking opinions were talking facts a bluray player an excellent game machine a web browser all in 1 neat package is definitely worth 399 not to mention everything else it has. The exclusives are amazing and keep getting better have any of you ppl bashing sony even played LBP or Resistance 2? I doubt it now that I mention it isnt crapbox out of blockbuster exclusives ? After fable 2 and GOW2 there really isnt nething good coming to xbox and microsuck knows this otherwise they wouldnt of dropped there price, lets see God of War 3, GT5, Infamous, MAG and many many more God of War alone is gonna be a massive system seller . Xbox has been out a year longer and is only about 5 million units ahead ridiculous you ppl act like its 20 mil ahead and still dominating the market PS3 will catch up and soon overtake xbox and Ill be the first one on here laughing my ass off lol.
It’s more around 6 million ahead. The ironic thing ryda is that the 360 has increased its lead over the PS3 since the PS3 has been out. The 360 only lead the PS3 by around 2 million at launch, now that lead stands near 6 million. They've more than doubled their lead over Sony since the PS3 launched.
As far as typing this on your PS3...no, that'd be too easy. I really don't care to browse the internet on my 360. It'd be cool, but I have my PC for that.
I didn't want to be mean in regards to PS3's terrible October but you Sony Fanboys keep yappin the same stuff over and over about PS3's exclusives but each time one comes out and does poorly, you just move on to future exclusives and start yappin about those. When a PS3 exclusive does something like 2 million in 3 days, or even 1 million in 3 days, I'll take notice. Until then, I won't be too concerned with the hype behind a PS3 exclusive. Especially after LBP's disappointing showing. You can brag about GT5 (whenever it comes out), God of War 3, and Infamous when they actually sell, this bragging in advance about exclusives thing has got to go, especially when it comes to the PS3.
We're not bashing them, we're talking actual numbers. Saying something sold poorly when it in fact it sold poorly, is not bashing.
We may be happy about the 360's showing but at no point did we make any derogatory comments toward Sony or the PS3.
I laugh when i see a bunch of XBOTs in a SONY only post.
Again, the PS3 is the greatest bang for the buck for what you get under 400. However, next year when the price drops even more, it will be even better value.
That may or may not be true, but this month only 190k consumers thought so, 370k thought the 360 was the greatest bang for the buck. You have opinions, then you have facts. I'll go with the facts thank you.
PS3 being the "greatest bang for the buck" is totally subjective. It is to YOU, but clearly not to everyone else. And by the time the PS3 price drops (again), it'll more than likely be too far behind to ever catch up.
"What with a 360 price cut and the slew of titles coming to it, "
Please and all you mention is GW2.
The article is stating the truth no matter how you look at it. The PS3 is the best value console on the market for what you get and quality. The list is long of what you do get over the other guys and also the reliability of the PS3 is amazing.
MS knew they HAD to launch a year earlier or else they would not sell as much as they did. Also the PS3 has sold over 3 million more units then the 360 did at the same time frame.
For $399.99 it's a great deal but i agree if they want to really get into the market they need to drop that. I mean the elite is $399 isnt it? And werent people complaining about multiple skus? Sony pretty much has one now and 360 has 3?
Yes, when you count yearly Xbox Live, proprietary hard drives, wifi adaptors, controller batteries, proprietary headsets, a store with a "points" system, an oft inability to import potentially cheaper games and shipping costs for repaired consoles, the 360 has cost me considerably more.
The arrogance of Sony pre-launch has forever done them in, I guess. A lot of people wouldn't buy the thing if it was £40.
Sony is a victim of it's own arrogance, and you have to ask, was forcing the adoption of Blu-Ray really worth the cost of bringing down the previous two generations of Playstation dominance?
Add to that all the lies they told about the power of the PS3 (not that they didn't do the same with the PS2) and it's difficult to feel any sympathy for them.
The answer is yes console dominance is nothing ... nothing, compared to media format dominance, the blu-ray consortium gets royalties for the technology (sony being a big recipient) and no if ands or butts about it the PS3 won them the hi-def war. Inadvertently it may have lost them the console war.
Sure Sony wants both but if they had to pick (and apparently they did) they would pick consumer electronics rather than "niche" gaming.
and no dont tell me Streaming and Downloads are gonna kill bluray, people like discs, people like boxes... you dont gift downloads... you wrap that Lost season 3 snuggly.
Good points Shaman.
As far as your 3rd paragraph, that one's not as easy to come to a conclusion on in my eyes. If people like boxes, discs, etc so much they'd still be buying CDs. Who buys CDs anymore? I do think it'll be harder to convince people to make the transition to digital media when it comes to video, but it'll get there (its already getting there, but may take a while to really penetrate like digital music has). And disc-based movies will be like CDs are today, obsolete. Oh, and you won't be gifting "boxes" for movies, you'll be gifting cards with the download code on it and will ultimately be the same gift, just in a different medium. I guess if you want boxes cluttering up your house and the movie inserts that bad you probably will have the option of buying the whole shebang still, just like you can with CDs. I personally hate filing through my giant (heavy, too) 300+ movie case to find my movie. Being able to just click on what I want to watch when i want to watch it instead of having boxes or movie cases taking up space in my house is definitely welcome.
I think Nick is right on this, Shaman. As technically impressive as blu-ray is, it's penetration is pitiful compared to the generation before it (that is, DVD). Not enough people own a HDTV to make the jump to blu-ray justified, and by the time enough people do, memory and bandwidth will be so cheap and plentiful that it would be silly to take up physical space when you can just as well click a button and have your movie pop up on screen in hi-def. Xbox 360 will already be able to do this with NXE as of this Wednesday, and for a price of less than a single blu-ray DVD! Michael Bay was probably right when he accused Microsoft of stifling the next gen format by backing HD-DVD -- they know digital distribution is the future. Look at PSN, Live Arcade, or Steam on PC; even gamestop has digitally downloaded games. Youtube is starting to run movies, Netflix has already been streaming on PC for over a year now and DVD (as well as blu-ray) rips are plentiful on the torrent networks. People really aren't interested in a physical medium anymore, and many of us (myself included) have already moved on. I haven't bought a solid DVD (at least one that isn't a game) in years, and I don't plan on ever 'moving on' to blu-ray. It's a shame for sony, as they've been competing for format primacy for decades, and when they finally seem to 'win'...their tech is already obsolete.
So yay for all the Sony fans renting and buying super-expensive blu-ray DVDs. If we have the same income, suffice it to say, I'm going to be seeing a lot more hi-def movies on my TV this month than you are able to afford with a PS3. (At least, for now. Sony has already partly headed in this direction, and I am quite sure they'll continue to. Blu-ray is ending up with the same problem as the PS3 itself -- too little, too late, and too pricey)
P.S. Forgot to mention -- so many consumers are already use to digital distribution-like platforms via Tivo and other DVRs, as well as Video on Demand from cable providers. We're already doing it, in other words.
Digital Distribution is Compressed, its nothing even close to what BD offers. Plus SONY offers both worlds. BD, DVD, and DIGITAL DISTRIBUTION. Heck... If HDDVD won, you would be the guy touting its victory... DOUBLESTANDARDS! The main point of your post is that "In Your Opinion" you prefer the non physical medium format. Fair enough! However I rather own the physical medium and put it in when i want to watch/play it or not. What happens when your HDD takes a dump? - Where do your DD go? How much space would you need to store 100 BLU RAYS? Oh and how much space will you need to get at least Dolby 5.1 and 480p picture using your On demand service? Lets say something like my collection of DVDs which is at 600 now and growing?
"If HDDVD won, you would be the guy touting its victory... DOUBLESTANDARDS!"
I'll give you that. But I don't think any one could have predicted that DD would take off so quick.
720p, DD5.1 movies run around 4-10 gigs depending on length. Movies up until very recently were only filmed in 720p so HD-DVD and BluRay disc although output in 1080p, the native resolution of the content is only 720p. So the player really is just up converting a 720p image to 1080p anyway.
Monkey, when was the last time you bought a music CD? Are you toting around a portable CD player or a portable digital media device? In your home do you listen to CDs or do you stream from pc/digital media device? You may THINK you want to tote around hundreds of DVDs, but in the next 3-5 years when everyone's doing digital you won't be singing the same tune.
As far as if your HDD takes a dump? Well, digital movie boxes keep track of what you have purchased, so if you're HDD takes a dump you just redownload. I don't know why people are fighting movies downloads so much. Embrace it as you've embraced digital music. Why stay in the past bro?
Ok, yes it is compressed though; I'll give you that as well. But with bandwidth only continuing to increase and fiber optic networks becoming more and more available, bandwidth won't be an issue any more and they won't have to compress the content as they do now.
Also, as far as running out of space on your HDD, I see the following as a possible option; you may never SAVE your movies on your movie box, they may be kept server side. When you want to watch your movie, you just click it and with superfast bandwidth, you'll have near instant access to all your movies and won't know the difference between server downloads and physically storing your movies on your box. I'm not a fan of my 15+lb 300+ DVD case I gotta pull out every time I want to watch a movie.
You may THINK you don't want your movies digital, but when it becomes mainstream and it’s the popular thing to do in a couple years (just like digital music is now), although late to the party, you'll be there, too.
Boo hoo Sony is arrogant, boo hoo the hardware is inferior.
Tough cookie. You can change the name to MS or Nintendo, the sentence sounds true anyway. Try it sometimes for change's sake. Dude sell your PS2 and buy a 360. Or simply start saving up for your inevitable PS3 because you totally sound like a wannabe buyer.
Seriously, people should realize that even if Sony is this generation's pariah, they have their own roadmap and prices. The PS3 is a pretty decent (and stabile... cough... 360... cough) hardware with a very strong lineup with many 1st party titles. How about we all stop counting selling numbers and play those games instead? (To be frank I tend to do that more and more these days -- too many good games came out lately and yes, exclusives.) We all know (or suspect) that they'll have a price cut next year, and if they don't -- well, good for them.
Enough rambling, back to LBP and Dead Space. Hate to sound like a complete Sony fanboy and I'm not on their payroll unfortunately, but I find it amazing when someone's complaining about these kind of things.
Wow, gyak, you seem upset, so i'll try and explain my position on the PS3 front. Firstly my Blu-Ray comment was from a position of wondering if pushing the format with it's Playstation brand was worth it for Sony in the long run, as it's no doubt cost them a large number of sales and probably cost them market dominance, from a personal perspective it makes no difference to me what so ever.
I do own a PS2 (and PS1) but it's somewhere in the attic as i haven't used it in over two years, i already own a 360, and no, i wont be buying a PS3 until Sony give me a good reason to do so, in fact i was recently offered the 80 gig model for half price but still wasn't tempted enough.
It's not that i think the PS3 is a bad machine, it's just that all the exclusives that might have tempted me to get one (GTA, Tekken, Devil May Cry etc) have all gone multi-platform, so until they bring out that killer app i'm just not tempted, and while i like the sound of LBP it's the only interesting enough PS3 exclusive so far (no i don't like the MGS games) and i'm not going to buy a console to play one game unless it's a new version of Thief!.
As for the PS3 power comment, if what Sony had said was true i'd buy one because the games would be better, but as they're usually better on the 360 what's the point?
Dear Nolim, let's forget everything. The following sentence showed your true colours, hands down:
"i'm not going to buy a console to play one game unless it's a new version of Thief!"
Let's put it this way: if anyone would make a good Thief game (not a cash cow like the third one) I'd buy anything just for that game (even a 360, for the second time).
Thief TDP remake on any "next gen" console FTW.
We can live the dream! BTW have you checked out the new dark mod beta demo "The Tears of St. Lucia", no lock picking yet but otherwise it's looking really sweet, looks like the future of Thief is in good hands.
Thanks for the tip, ttlg.com is in my boorkmarks from its beginning.
Wish I had a PC capable of running Doom 3 properly.
What are you trying to spin? The X360 has been out for one year earlier, and was unrealible hardware, that was rushed out the gate. Ok fine... in 3 years 22.70millions sold. While PS3 is only 2 years old and has managed to sell 16.6 million units. Has great hardware from the start, it has been upgraded to great features via firmware. Will only get better with all the games, and the next price cut. With all that said, how do you spin that Sony is doomed and how do you even come up with a conclusion that PS3 does not offer more EXCLUSIVE content than X360? Lets see MS depends on all third party studios, maybe what a few 1st party? While Sony has 13 studios under one division, all focused on PS3 development. The PS3 plays games, PS2, PS1 ( at least mine ) DVD, Blu Ray, etc... Even at 649 was a great deal! Sure its cheaper now, but i stick with my 320gb/PS3 ( 60gb ). BluRay, Linux, gaming and pure fun was the driving factor. All the first party titles that will be only on SONY platforms from the SONY PS1 and PS2 generations will continue on the 3. Oh and lets not forget, while you guys change out that 360 for a next model, when MS feels the pressure again we will most likely be still gaming on the PS3. Oh lets not forget about originality but the PSN offers way more original games than Live.
So tell me why do you hate SONY and PS3 so much? And why are your PS1 and PS2 collecting dust in the attic, heck... If you dont want them id pick them up from your hands.
Oh and JFYI when games are coded right, they tend to preform better on the PS3. Burnout, Oblivion, Dark Sector, Mirrors Edge, and many other etc... So I dont see you points valid at all.
I'm not trying to spin anything, and have nothing against the PS3 or Sony, except perhaps a vague sense of disappointment at so many unfulfilled promises. I'm not a particular fan of any console company and will buy whatever hardware has the best games, which at the moment is (according to my game tastes) the 360.
In all honesty i started out this generation with the intention to buy all three machines, i bought a 360 because it was out first and it has since proved to be a great machine, i got a Wii but didn't like the games, or loose control system, so sold it (though i'm sure many people love them, it's just not my type of thing), and i'm still waiting for Sony to give me a reason to buy a PS3.
To think i'm a Sony hater is missing the point entirely, i bought their last two consoles and thought they were great, i just wish the PS3 was what Sony claimed it was going to be, and yes, i know i shouldn't have listened to the hype, but you can't tell me you're not a little disappointed at the 'Power of the PS3' not being anything like Sony claimed, not to mention the loss of all those exclusives.
As for my Playtations being in the attic, it's not for a lack of great games, but more a comment on the great games this generation has provided, i've barely enough time to play the current crop of titles, this year more than ever, i've had Fallout 3 since launch day and still have yet to play it due to Fable 2 and now Gears 2, if only there were more hours in the day!
Fair enough! although I'd like to point one thing out. The reason I'm not disappointed is because, I did not set any unrealistic expectations about the console. Heck... the Hype is just a HYPE. Compared to my PS2 the PS3 is geat, I'm glad that I waited for the PS3.
MGS4, Uncharted, MotorStorm, Resistance these are all great titles! Heck I own 32 games since the 06 Launch and I think its a great machine! X360 has been out for 37 months and PS3 has been out for 24Months. You do the math... All this is pointless if you end up spending more time bragging rather than enjoying and playing games.
like gwsmonkey said. HYPE is just HYPE.. I mean how many of us craped our pants when Sony dropped the PS2 specs on us.. I was a sega zealot and that event alone sent me into depression. How the hell could you feel good about the Dreamcast after hearing that stuff...AHH I miss those days.
Nolim,
I totally agree. I too, owned both a PS1 and PS2 (mainly for Tekken) and did enjoy the games that were offered on the systems. I was late to the party with both the PS1 and PS2 and I wasn't a huge Sony fan, but I did enjoy them. The Xbox 1 kinda ruined that with its online gaming and great FPSs that the PS2 just coudln't quite match with its aging hardware so I moved on. I too am waiting for a good reason for ME to buy a PS3. Since the sytems don't offer anything unique enough compared to eachother nothing other than software will warrant a puchase. And once I heard Tekken 6 is coming to the 360, that killed any chance of me ever buying one. And since I saw a Sylvania BluRay player yesterday at the BX (military version of target) for only 259 with no tax, I don't even need a PS3 for a BluRay player any more (not that I'll even buy one, but at least I know they're pretty cheap now).
I couldn't agree more about time. I have CoDWaW, Far Cry 2, Scene it, Gears 2, Fallout 3, Fable 2, GH:WT, and Dead Space and the former 3 I haven't even played yet. I'm a level 3 in Fallout stuck at megaton cause I'm TRYING to play Gears 2 (working on insane co-op), need to finish Fable, Dead Space, etc. Even if I wanted a PS3 or wanted to play my Wii (which the poor thing hasn't been touched for months) I just don't have time for more than one system. Too bad I'm not 14 living at home, it'd be an awesome time to be a teenaged gamer.