Retro remakes/sequels:
With the critical and commercial success of remakes and retro games like Bionic Commando: Rearmed, Mega Man 9, and Square/Enix's DS Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy JRPGs, and with the relative low cost of their development, studios will expand their libraries of retro remakes to complement their XBLA and Virtual Console offerings targeted toward nostalgic gamers.
So I suppose you're arguing that this is the owner's fault? If so, how would you explain the fact that no other disc-based gaming console or piece of consumer electronics equipment, of which there have been quite a few over the year, has ever been afflicted by this type of problem? Did people just start moving these machines around while they were active in the last two years? Or do they move only their XBox 360s for some reason? Your logic is hard to follow.
You know, it have never occurred to me that Nickgamertag01 could be an actual professional astroturfer, but that's a very interesting theory. I had just considered him a rapid fanboy MS apologist, but if he's doing his thing for pay, I've got a little more respect. I mean, if you're slavishly parrying every legitimate criticism of your console just because you're emotionally attached to the thing, you're a lunatic. But if you're doing this in an effort to advance a professional agenda, well, then you're just a mercenary. No harm in that.
"So, the 25 million 360 owners are all fanboys apparently? We've all had to "tolerate" our 360s cause we just don't know any better huh?"
No, but folks like yourself who buy 4 units, troll forums to defend the platform, and dissemble about the issue in question (your use of the term "exaggerated nearly non-existent problem" to describe the RRoD is absurd) most definitely fit the definition of "fanboy". I made a logical, measured case for holding out on a 360 purchase until the hardware issue was completely rectified. I also argued that MS should be held accountable for their disgraceful behavior, but that they are getting away with this because most users will understandably tolerate this nonsense because the games are compelling. You responded by taking a swipe at the PS3, vomiting sales number talking points, and then claiming that I was insulting the entire user base because I chose not to share their tolerance for the RRoD. Exemplary fanboy-ism, and in no way a reasonable argument against my own.
Like others here, you seem not to have actually read my posting in its entirety. I actually said that I'm enjoying many of those AAA games on my PC (eg. Mass Effect, Bioshock, COD4, GoW, etc.), so your question is moot. The other titles that appeal to me, like Fable 2 or GoW2, which will not make it to the PC, are not so numerous that I can't wait for stable hardware (and, it looks like, stable software in the case of Fable 2) in order to play them. If I didn't have a PC, yeah, maybe I'd have bitten the bullet years ago and bought a nearly-guaranteed-to-fail console. But, because I can play many of these games - and this holds for PS3 owners as well, for many titles - I'm in no bug rush. I made a perfectly clear case as to why I was waiting until the hardware issue was completely resolved; I really don't understand the vehemence with which this case is attacked here.
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Retro remakes/sequels:
With the critical and commercial success of remakes and retro games like Bionic Commando: Rearmed, Mega Man 9, and Square/Enix's DS Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy JRPGs, and with the relative low cost of their development, studios will expand their libraries of retro remakes to complement their XBLA and Virtual Console offerings targeted toward nostalgic gamers.
So I suppose you're arguing that this is the owner's fault? If so, how would you explain the fact that no other disc-based gaming console or piece of consumer electronics equipment, of which there have been quite a few over the year, has ever been afflicted by this type of problem? Did people just start moving these machines around while they were active in the last two years? Or do they move only their XBox 360s for some reason? Your logic is hard to follow.
You know, it have never occurred to me that Nickgamertag01 could be an actual professional astroturfer, but that's a very interesting theory. I had just considered him a rapid fanboy MS apologist, but if he's doing his thing for pay, I've got a little more respect. I mean, if you're slavishly parrying every legitimate criticism of your console just because you're emotionally attached to the thing, you're a lunatic. But if you're doing this in an effort to advance a professional agenda, well, then you're just a mercenary. No harm in that.
"So, the 25 million 360 owners are all fanboys apparently? We've all had to "tolerate" our 360s cause we just don't know any better huh?"
No, but folks like yourself who buy 4 units, troll forums to defend the platform, and dissemble about the issue in question (your use of the term "exaggerated nearly non-existent problem" to describe the RRoD is absurd) most definitely fit the definition of "fanboy". I made a logical, measured case for holding out on a 360 purchase until the hardware issue was completely rectified. I also argued that MS should be held accountable for their disgraceful behavior, but that they are getting away with this because most users will understandably tolerate this nonsense because the games are compelling. You responded by taking a swipe at the PS3, vomiting sales number talking points, and then claiming that I was insulting the entire user base because I chose not to share their tolerance for the RRoD. Exemplary fanboy-ism, and in no way a reasonable argument against my own.
Like others here, you seem not to have actually read my posting in its entirety. I actually said that I'm enjoying many of those AAA games on my PC (eg. Mass Effect, Bioshock, COD4, GoW, etc.), so your question is moot. The other titles that appeal to me, like Fable 2 or GoW2, which will not make it to the PC, are not so numerous that I can't wait for stable hardware (and, it looks like, stable software in the case of Fable 2) in order to play them. If I didn't have a PC, yeah, maybe I'd have bitten the bullet years ago and bought a nearly-guaranteed-to-fail console. But, because I can play many of these games - and this holds for PS3 owners as well, for many titles - I'm in no bug rush. I made a perfectly clear case as to why I was waiting until the hardware issue was completely resolved; I really don't understand the vehemence with which this case is attacked here.
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