World is different now. Consumers are more accepting of this kind of service, especially if Amazon can get overnight deliveries added to the mix. As for immediacy, I can't always get to a GS location when I want due to other, more pressing activities, like working. If I know the trade-in is 2 days in total for a turnaround, on a physical copy, done deal.
BTW, you DO know hoe Cedega works, right? Transgaming is not allowed to look at the underpinnings of the DirectX APIs as they are propritary so they view them from a "top down" approach and view the result of the DX output. this is why there are some games that work and some that don't. It's also why MS can't sue them. And yes, I have known Vikas and Gavrial for years and I do know how it works. It's a very educated, tested guess.
As for the OS booting issue, why should I have to choose (lol)? It is a pain in the ass to switch between OSs on a single machine and I can boot any of my consoles faster than any of my desktops which is important in the family room, not so much in the office. As for the $60 games, so what? Downloadable games for as low at $2? That's an issue? I can hook a keyboard and mouse to the PS3 and the Wii (and they both have compliant browsers as well). As for certain genres better on the PC than console, you are EXACTLY correct. but I never stated that consoles would replace PCs now did I?
Lower price trend for performance still turns out to be more expensive than the priciest PS3 package. Even a mid-tier graphics card is as expensive as a Wii. PC's are STILL nowhere as affordable as console gaming, from a hardware perspective.
So, my last comment here. I, in no way, find PC gaming "abhorrent" as I am a PC gamer as well. As for the stupid "Mac users are in a cult" argument, the same can be said about PC overclockers. I have probably modded more PC's, and jammed more MicroATX mobos into more "wacky" cases than most have ever owned and, after years of dealing with bad specs, unsolvable hardware hangs, blue screens, etc. the move to OS X was a blessing. Everything just works. It is massive leap forward in usability that Windows and Linux just have not achieved. That does not mean it's good for everything, it is just a superior experience as a desktop PC.
And guess what, the world is full of more Joe Six Packs than geeks like you and I. The "hardcore" is the extreme minority and me, you and Alex St. John are squarely in it.
The discussion of the "one spec" has been around since Microsoft put together the Multimedia Compliance spec in the early 1990s and guess what, still no single spec. The PC market is a mishmash of half baked specs, loosely defined rules and non-standard compliance.
As for the checks you put in place for consoles looking more like PC's (in your other response to me), that's what happens when you get a PC software company building a freaking game console. RROD came from Microsoft's lack of quality control in building products. It's the same problem with EVERYTHING that company makes. And don't try to point at "facts", I have enough friends at MS Xbox group to get all the facts I need thanks :) As for the PS3 bricking issue,what issue? Less than 1 percent of the PS3 owners had an issue and it was fixed immediately. Let's compare that number to Vista users.....
Again, I am not against PC gaming, I love it. I still enjoy many different PC games today. But the notion of the PC replacing the console in the home is absolutely absurd and until the PC becomes as easy to administer and use as a console, don't expect it to. Last time I checked, I never defragged my XBox or PS3 drives nor have I had to install anti-virus software....oh, and not on my Mac either :)
So, it's not ok for Sony or MS to have a closed platform but its ok for Apple to have one with iPhone? Got it :)
I get it, you are a PC user and a fan of open source. Great! That does not change the fact that the modern PC is still a wart riddled beast of a platform. At least Windows platforms are. Mac/OS X is a huge leap in the right direction and Linux is for tinkerers. Nothing wrong with all of these platforms and I operate all of them in my own home. Does not change the fact that console gaming is far more elegant, across the board.
Sorry, you can not run EVERY single Windows game in Linux, even with WINE and Cedega. Been around those techs for many a year now. Yes, as a Windows and OS X user, I understand that I can dual boot. So what? Now I get to administer 2 platforms. Great. As for the PCs that dozens and dozens of companies make, that is EXACTLY the problem with PC gaming. No two systems work the same, even if they use the "same" components. Guess what, every PS3 game runs on ALL PS3's in production. No driver issues, no OS issues, etc. Same for XBox360 and Wii.
Sorry, but I have been around this industry for over 25 years and, as a person who owns multiple desktops, I can truly say that PC in the living room is quite a ways off. Killing the console? Not by 2020.
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World is different now. Consumers are more accepting of this kind of service, especially if Amazon can get overnight deliveries added to the mix. As for immediacy, I can't always get to a GS location when I want due to other, more pressing activities, like working. If I know the trade-in is 2 days in total for a turnaround, on a physical copy, done deal.
Can't work? Netflix says hello.
BTW, you DO know hoe Cedega works, right? Transgaming is not allowed to look at the underpinnings of the DirectX APIs as they are propritary so they view them from a "top down" approach and view the result of the DX output. this is why there are some games that work and some that don't. It's also why MS can't sue them. And yes, I have known Vikas and Gavrial for years and I do know how it works. It's a very educated, tested guess.
As for the OS booting issue, why should I have to choose (lol)? It is a pain in the ass to switch between OSs on a single machine and I can boot any of my consoles faster than any of my desktops which is important in the family room, not so much in the office. As for the $60 games, so what? Downloadable games for as low at $2? That's an issue? I can hook a keyboard and mouse to the PS3 and the Wii (and they both have compliant browsers as well). As for certain genres better on the PC than console, you are EXACTLY correct. but I never stated that consoles would replace PCs now did I?
Lower price trend for performance still turns out to be more expensive than the priciest PS3 package. Even a mid-tier graphics card is as expensive as a Wii. PC's are STILL nowhere as affordable as console gaming, from a hardware perspective.
And, I'm out.
So, my last comment here. I, in no way, find PC gaming "abhorrent" as I am a PC gamer as well. As for the stupid "Mac users are in a cult" argument, the same can be said about PC overclockers. I have probably modded more PC's, and jammed more MicroATX mobos into more "wacky" cases than most have ever owned and, after years of dealing with bad specs, unsolvable hardware hangs, blue screens, etc. the move to OS X was a blessing. Everything just works. It is massive leap forward in usability that Windows and Linux just have not achieved. That does not mean it's good for everything, it is just a superior experience as a desktop PC.
And guess what, the world is full of more Joe Six Packs than geeks like you and I. The "hardcore" is the extreme minority and me, you and Alex St. John are squarely in it.
The discussion of the "one spec" has been around since Microsoft put together the Multimedia Compliance spec in the early 1990s and guess what, still no single spec. The PC market is a mishmash of half baked specs, loosely defined rules and non-standard compliance.
As for the checks you put in place for consoles looking more like PC's (in your other response to me), that's what happens when you get a PC software company building a freaking game console. RROD came from Microsoft's lack of quality control in building products. It's the same problem with EVERYTHING that company makes. And don't try to point at "facts", I have enough friends at MS Xbox group to get all the facts I need thanks :) As for the PS3 bricking issue,what issue? Less than 1 percent of the PS3 owners had an issue and it was fixed immediately. Let's compare that number to Vista users.....
Again, I am not against PC gaming, I love it. I still enjoy many different PC games today. But the notion of the PC replacing the console in the home is absolutely absurd and until the PC becomes as easy to administer and use as a console, don't expect it to. Last time I checked, I never defragged my XBox or PS3 drives nor have I had to install anti-virus software....oh, and not on my Mac either :)
So, it's not ok for Sony or MS to have a closed platform but its ok for Apple to have one with iPhone? Got it :)
I get it, you are a PC user and a fan of open source. Great! That does not change the fact that the modern PC is still a wart riddled beast of a platform. At least Windows platforms are. Mac/OS X is a huge leap in the right direction and Linux is for tinkerers. Nothing wrong with all of these platforms and I operate all of them in my own home. Does not change the fact that console gaming is far more elegant, across the board.
Sorry, you can not run EVERY single Windows game in Linux, even with WINE and Cedega. Been around those techs for many a year now. Yes, as a Windows and OS X user, I understand that I can dual boot. So what? Now I get to administer 2 platforms. Great. As for the PCs that dozens and dozens of companies make, that is EXACTLY the problem with PC gaming. No two systems work the same, even if they use the "same" components. Guess what, every PS3 game runs on ALL PS3's in production. No driver issues, no OS issues, etc. Same for XBox360 and Wii.
Sorry, but I have been around this industry for over 25 years and, as a person who owns multiple desktops, I can truly say that PC in the living room is quite a ways off. Killing the console? Not by 2020.
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