And yet the 360 arcade model can still, out of the box play all the multiplatform games that you can get for ps3 and usually they are superior as well as more exclusive games.

I don't see value in the ps3. I see a a weak console with a weak games library.

You do have one good point, the ps1 and ps2 were very very unreliable and sony's customer service is terrible, people often forget that.

You both have a point, it costs a lot and the games library is weak. Thats why ps3 is a failure.

They deserve the success. 360 has by far the best games library and thats all that matters.

Except that these aren't like US states, they are countries with their own pricing.