Just to reiterate what others have said here, and I think this is really the bottom line, it's insulting, naive, and arrogant to think that we all want to play online only games. If the game is an fps, an rts, or even the point and click action rpg, all these genres which are generally sales generating on the pc usually have online components, but why would a publisher assume that's the reason people are buying them? This crap is starting to sound like the recording industry, we all want to listen to manufactured pop we conveniently get from record stores in the mall, obviously. I'm sure the record industry would like to abolish selling any records and just go straight to selling rights and subscriptions. Would drastically increase revenue, and I think in all honesty that's what the motivation for this chest-puffing is.
Socially responsible doesn't enter into this. The fact is, children are killed in every major armed conflict. Fallout is kind of about that, right? Existence in a chaotic world of brutal traders, raiders, religious nuts, post military industrial complex psychos, giant berserk mutants and other such violent warring factions leads you to conclude it's not important to present that children can die in the crossfire? Crappy old westerns had more balls than this. Also, every other issue people have presented here. Shame on this P.C. garbage. I can nuke a whole town for money but can not even accidentally kill a kid. Is that social responsibility?
Agreed that nothing's been released on pricing, and battle.net was only discussed as "what makes business sense", and that was a large estimate, but I think that was all a given. It's called reading between the lines, some research, and a bit of sarcasm. If it's anything like their current pricing it will only be $90 total for the first expansion and then $130 total for the second. Man that's really reasonable so I can get in there and play a Protoss campaign, you're right. It's not entitlement it's disgust.
Biggest thing you seem to NOT get is that Blizzard did make LOADS on SC1 and the Diablo franchise. You're a fool if you think that it's unreasonable to suggest Blizzard is greedy. Do they spend their near $150,000,000 a month of wow subscriptions on operational costs? Man, I feel so bad about disliking them now. I've been unreasonable, poor Blizzard, they need money too! It's a creative industry, or at least it's supposed to be. If the new Indiana Jones was released in 3 parts chronicling the perspective of one character so that we could have a more in-depth perspective for that character I'd still call it a crap movie and a horrible money grubbing gimmick.
So how about you look at it objectively from a consumer standpoint and figure out if you really think it's reasonable to be ok with buying a game you don't want to play so you can buy an expansion you don't want to play so you can buy an expansion that you might like if all goes well. Makes good business sense to me only if your consumers are stupid enough to do it. Which I do find insulting.
Again, just going to express the pure point of my comment, I'm not going to touch SC2 if this is the way it's going to be released, and Blizzard has turned more business than developer at this point. This being the "free"market and all, consumers and their opinions on business practices, price point, and product quality is supposed to be what drives business actions.
So essentially if I want to play at all in a sp campaign with a race I don't despise I have to drop at LEAST 100 bucks, maybe 150, plus I have to pay for multiplayer? Looks like another new Blizzard game I'm not going to even touch. This is what you WoW junkies are paying for with your vast amounts of subscription money.
What's next? We'll hear how Diablo III will feature one class with a full experience! Blizzard really wanted to focus on the paladin and give users the full experience of using one class. With their cash and high sales numbers guaranteed, Blizzard should be ashamed. They're starting to sound like corporate crack pushers.
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Just to reiterate what others have said here, and I think this is really the bottom line, it's insulting, naive, and arrogant to think that we all want to play online only games. If the game is an fps, an rts, or even the point and click action rpg, all these genres which are generally sales generating on the pc usually have online components, but why would a publisher assume that's the reason people are buying them? This crap is starting to sound like the recording industry, we all want to listen to manufactured pop we conveniently get from record stores in the mall, obviously. I'm sure the record industry would like to abolish selling any records and just go straight to selling rights and subscriptions. Would drastically increase revenue, and I think in all honesty that's what the motivation for this chest-puffing is.
Socially responsible doesn't enter into this. The fact is, children are killed in every major armed conflict. Fallout is kind of about that, right? Existence in a chaotic world of brutal traders, raiders, religious nuts, post military industrial complex psychos, giant berserk mutants and other such violent warring factions leads you to conclude it's not important to present that children can die in the crossfire? Crappy old westerns had more balls than this. Also, every other issue people have presented here. Shame on this P.C. garbage. I can nuke a whole town for money but can not even accidentally kill a kid. Is that social responsibility?
Agreed that nothing's been released on pricing, and battle.net was only discussed as "what makes business sense", and that was a large estimate, but I think that was all a given. It's called reading between the lines, some research, and a bit of sarcasm. If it's anything like their current pricing it will only be $90 total for the first expansion and then $130 total for the second. Man that's really reasonable so I can get in there and play a Protoss campaign, you're right. It's not entitlement it's disgust.
Biggest thing you seem to NOT get is that Blizzard did make LOADS on SC1 and the Diablo franchise. You're a fool if you think that it's unreasonable to suggest Blizzard is greedy. Do they spend their near $150,000,000 a month of wow subscriptions on operational costs? Man, I feel so bad about disliking them now. I've been unreasonable, poor Blizzard, they need money too! It's a creative industry, or at least it's supposed to be. If the new Indiana Jones was released in 3 parts chronicling the perspective of one character so that we could have a more in-depth perspective for that character I'd still call it a crap movie and a horrible money grubbing gimmick.
So how about you look at it objectively from a consumer standpoint and figure out if you really think it's reasonable to be ok with buying a game you don't want to play so you can buy an expansion you don't want to play so you can buy an expansion that you might like if all goes well. Makes good business sense to me only if your consumers are stupid enough to do it. Which I do find insulting.
Again, just going to express the pure point of my comment, I'm not going to touch SC2 if this is the way it's going to be released, and Blizzard has turned more business than developer at this point. This being the "free"market and all, consumers and their opinions on business practices, price point, and product quality is supposed to be what drives business actions.
So essentially if I want to play at all in a sp campaign with a race I don't despise I have to drop at LEAST 100 bucks, maybe 150, plus I have to pay for multiplayer? Looks like another new Blizzard game I'm not going to even touch. This is what you WoW junkies are paying for with your vast amounts of subscription money.
What's next? We'll hear how Diablo III will feature one class with a full experience! Blizzard really wanted to focus on the paladin and give users the full experience of using one class. With their cash and high sales numbers guaranteed, Blizzard should be ashamed. They're starting to sound like corporate crack pushers.
Awesome news. I hope it's another wii title. The wii needs more original games that aren't toys, eh?
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