Did you even read my original post, because it really doesn't look like it!
I am not sensitive about anything, especially not a games machine, I'm not the one that it is on here every day slagging off Blu-Ray, Sony and PS3. I'm not on here slating anything, I'm simply stating that I find it bizarre that you feel the need to put all of the above down in every artical I read.
I know full-well the specs of the PS3, and yes I know it has split ram as you say, I know that Blu-Ray read speeds are not slower than the DVD drive in the 360 (look up the actual transfer rates), but the seek can take a lot longer as it's a much bigger disk.
I too have read a developer blog (or two) that states the reason for the installs is Blu-Ray and Memory Architecture, I can see it on the Blu-Ray side of thigs if the layout is bad or you are dealing with much higher res textures etc, but that's developers, a lot of it is down to lazy development, surely you must understand that? I'm a developer (not games), and we all have our excuses at the end of the day.
In reply to your other question/comment, I am also not new to online threads, I just don't normally get involved in ones on gaming sites as it just turns into this kind of kiddie argument thing, which I don't have the time/inclanation to get involved in.
I simply wanted to say that I was bored of seeing the same people posting the same negative comments day in and day out.
I was referring to Grognards post above, article about Pioneer storage of 400GB results in a post about PS3s memory architecture. Not to mention that the content of said post is complete poppy-cock!
Thanks for the inteligent and polite reply Nick. My post, believe it or not, was not meant to offend, i just had to say something.
I will add, that most of your posts are factual, as opossed to some of the other comments I read which are obvisouly just written out of spite for some reason, by someone with no real understanding of what they are talking about.
I agree that being able to stream HD and SD movies is great, it's just that when people start claiming that in a couple of years time there will be no need for physical media, I think they need to wake up to the real world.
Blu-Ray players with streaming capability is a brilliant idea too, ultimate choice! :)
Nice connection speed by the way, I'm guessing you're USA?
I often look through Edge on a daily basis on my lunch break, due to the fact that they have interesting articles.
I am however beginning to get put off by the fact that if there is any article regarding Blu-Ray, Sony or PS3 I can basically name in my head 3 people that will be badmouthing them, making up 'Facts' or generally being negative within a few hours of that article being written. Also the opostie is true if something regarding Microsoft is published.
Nick, Kim and Grognard (or whatever it is), I'm talking to you guys. Why all the ill-informed, negative comments on anything even mildly relating to Sony.
This is not even a story about Blu-Ray or Sony, but some of you have decided it's a good excuse to have a moan about Blu-Ray AGAIN! Seriously People, leave it alone, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one on this site sick of reading the same old comments in every article by the same people.
I have seen all of you call people "fanboys", all I can say is look at yourselves and what you post and tell me how you have any right to say something like that to anyone else.
On this article and your comments - you may be lucky enough, as am I, to have very fast internet connections, and be able to download and stream content. I personally haven't streamed any 1080p content over my connection (never felt the need) so can't comment on how good it is, but I'm doubting it is truly as good as Blu-Ray quality (that as Nick says, has been filmed properly), but have downloaded some and even with a 20m/s connection, it still takes a while, and the quality is still not up to that of certain Blu-Ray titles.
What some people don't seem to understand is that not everyone is interested in/wants to have a high speed interenet connection that allows them to do this.
I know of people that are not interested in gaming etc, that still want to watch HD films, they do not have a super fast internet connection, as they don't have the need for one, but when their DVD players break, they will probably go out and buy a blu-ray player instead as the prices come down.
I agree the take-up will not be anywhere near as fast as VHS to DVD was, but to say that everything will be downloaded by 2010 or whatever is just absurd! What about other countries that don't have the network infrastructure of UK and USA, do you think they will just not bother with HD?
Others simply want to feel like they actually have something to show for their purchase. I can download any films that I want now, but I still buy some of them on physical media (DVD and Blu-Ray), why, because I like to.
Also Kim, on the "the quality of an up-scaled DVD is as good as Blu-Ray", either your TV is not right, or you are buying the wrong Blu-Ray films, again, as Nick said, most of the stuff that is going onto Blu-Ray at the moment is not filmed in HD, watch something that is Platinum HD quality and then tell me you still think the same. There is a site named AV forums that has a list of BD films and which ones are actually true HD from the Source. Check it out. Batman is coming soon, now that will be a definate Blu-Ray purchase! :)
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Did you even read my original post, because it really doesn't look like it!
I am not sensitive about anything, especially not a games machine, I'm not the one that it is on here every day slagging off Blu-Ray, Sony and PS3. I'm not on here slating anything, I'm simply stating that I find it bizarre that you feel the need to put all of the above down in every artical I read.
I know full-well the specs of the PS3, and yes I know it has split ram as you say, I know that Blu-Ray read speeds are not slower than the DVD drive in the 360 (look up the actual transfer rates), but the seek can take a lot longer as it's a much bigger disk.
I too have read a developer blog (or two) that states the reason for the installs is Blu-Ray and Memory Architecture, I can see it on the Blu-Ray side of thigs if the layout is bad or you are dealing with much higher res textures etc, but that's developers, a lot of it is down to lazy development, surely you must understand that? I'm a developer (not games), and we all have our excuses at the end of the day.
In reply to your other question/comment, I am also not new to online threads, I just don't normally get involved in ones on gaming sites as it just turns into this kind of kiddie argument thing, which I don't have the time/inclanation to get involved in.
I simply wanted to say that I was bored of seeing the same people posting the same negative comments day in and day out.
I was referring to Grognards post above, article about Pioneer storage of 400GB results in a post about PS3s memory architecture. Not to mention that the content of said post is complete poppy-cock!
Thanks for the inteligent and polite reply Nick. My post, believe it or not, was not meant to offend, i just had to say something.
I will add, that most of your posts are factual, as opossed to some of the other comments I read which are obvisouly just written out of spite for some reason, by someone with no real understanding of what they are talking about.
I agree that being able to stream HD and SD movies is great, it's just that when people start claiming that in a couple of years time there will be no need for physical media, I think they need to wake up to the real world.
Blu-Ray players with streaming capability is a brilliant idea too, ultimate choice! :)
Nice connection speed by the way, I'm guessing you're USA?
And I rest my case... (See post below from me)
Jees!
I often look through Edge on a daily basis on my lunch break, due to the fact that they have interesting articles.
I am however beginning to get put off by the fact that if there is any article regarding Blu-Ray, Sony or PS3 I can basically name in my head 3 people that will be badmouthing them, making up 'Facts' or generally being negative within a few hours of that article being written. Also the opostie is true if something regarding Microsoft is published.
Nick, Kim and Grognard (or whatever it is), I'm talking to you guys. Why all the ill-informed, negative comments on anything even mildly relating to Sony.
This is not even a story about Blu-Ray or Sony, but some of you have decided it's a good excuse to have a moan about Blu-Ray AGAIN! Seriously People, leave it alone, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one on this site sick of reading the same old comments in every article by the same people.
I have seen all of you call people "fanboys", all I can say is look at yourselves and what you post and tell me how you have any right to say something like that to anyone else.
On this article and your comments - you may be lucky enough, as am I, to have very fast internet connections, and be able to download and stream content. I personally haven't streamed any 1080p content over my connection (never felt the need) so can't comment on how good it is, but I'm doubting it is truly as good as Blu-Ray quality (that as Nick says, has been filmed properly), but have downloaded some and even with a 20m/s connection, it still takes a while, and the quality is still not up to that of certain Blu-Ray titles.
What some people don't seem to understand is that not everyone is interested in/wants to have a high speed interenet connection that allows them to do this.
I know of people that are not interested in gaming etc, that still want to watch HD films, they do not have a super fast internet connection, as they don't have the need for one, but when their DVD players break, they will probably go out and buy a blu-ray player instead as the prices come down.
I agree the take-up will not be anywhere near as fast as VHS to DVD was, but to say that everything will be downloaded by 2010 or whatever is just absurd! What about other countries that don't have the network infrastructure of UK and USA, do you think they will just not bother with HD?
Others simply want to feel like they actually have something to show for their purchase. I can download any films that I want now, but I still buy some of them on physical media (DVD and Blu-Ray), why, because I like to.
Also Kim, on the "the quality of an up-scaled DVD is as good as Blu-Ray", either your TV is not right, or you are buying the wrong Blu-Ray films, again, as Nick said, most of the stuff that is going onto Blu-Ray at the moment is not filmed in HD, watch something that is Platinum HD quality and then tell me you still think the same. There is a site named AV forums that has a list of BD films and which ones are actually true HD from the Source. Check it out. Batman is coming soon, now that will be a definate Blu-Ray purchase! :)
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